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The decline of restaurants and eating out

I can't think of any worse industry to be in right now than the restaurant industry. Can you even imagine? Impossible to find good employees, ever-increasing cost of food, crappy economy (so less people dining out), etc.

I suspect that the restaurant industry is going to go through some massive changes in the coming years (it has already).
 
I can attest to this. Here is a 17 hours video regarding the latest Star Wars Video Game and the absolute disaster it is(and Yes I watched/ listened to the entire Video, OBV not in one sitting). btw it cost nearly 350 Million dollars to make and makes you wonder WTF did they actually do with the money. Gaming sucks for many reasons but the most notable is the conversion to Games as a service which is a play on SaaS or Software as a service.


Okay, I don't play video games but I just watched bits and pieces of that video and it's hilarious!

I guess the enshitification of the world really is ubiquitous.
 
Okay, I don't play video games but I just watched bits and pieces of that video and it's hilarious!

I guess the enshitification of the world really is ubiquitous.

The thing that sucks is, it doesn’t have to be this way. One thing this guy (and fair warning I am a fan of both his channel and podcast so allow some reverence here) pushes hard is about content for kids. One of the biggest perverse arguments about children’s media is “well it’s for kids so it’s okay if it’s shits” to me that is a disgusting statement. Kids deserve, as do adults, good quality media that is well written and constructed.
 
The thing that sucks is, it doesn’t have to be this way. One thing this guy (and fair warning I am a fan of both his channel and podcast so allow some reverence here) pushes hard is about content for kids. One of the biggest perverse arguments about children’s media is “well it’s for kids so it’s okay if it’s shits” to me that is a disgusting statement. Kids deserve, as do adults, good quality media that is well written and constructed.

As long as we continue to give them our money there is zero reason whatsoever for them to change anything.

That's what people are going to have to realize about everything we're discussing here. It's not them that is the problem, it's us, the consumer.

The question I have is how bad do things have to get before people really will stop giving them their hard earned money? As far as restaurants go, we're pretty much done dining out.
 
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All true - yet in the same breathe, people will spend over $1K for a PHOOOOOONNE and not think anything of it.

True - yet in another breath other luddites will spend $5k to buy 37 different devices to perform the functions a simple $200 last year's model PHOOOOOONNE will perform all by its lonesome and not think anything of it.
 
True - yet in another breath other luddites will spend $5k to buy 37 different devices to perform the functions a simple $200 last year's model PHOOOOOONNE will perform all by its lonesome and not think anything of it.

I'm afraid that my other devices combined cost was far less than a PHOOOOOONNE; I don't have to replace them every 2-3 years, and they do their jobs a LOT better - I'm not saddled with a jack of all trades, master of none. You can do a lot with a Gerber or Leatherman multi tool too, but you're better off with "real" tools. PHOOOOOONNEs suck at just about everything they do, other than suck money out of their owners' wallets - yet if you point this out, the apologists swarm vehemently out of the woodwork, defending their crippled toy to the death.

And yet I get called a "Luddite", by people who don't have a clue what a real computer is - I've forgotten more about computers and technology than most of these fools will ever know. I suppose that's why they think a PHOOOOOONNE is so wonderful, poor souls, they just don't know better. ;)
 
I'm afraid that my other devices combined cost was far less than a PHOOOOOONNE; I don't have to replace them every 2-3 years, and they do their jobs a LOT better - I'm not saddled with a jack of all trades, master of none. You can do a lot with a Gerber or Leatherman multi tool too, but you're better off with "real" tools. PHOOOOOONNEs suck at just about everything they do, other than suck money out of their owners' wallets - yet if you point this out, the apologists swarm vehemently out of the woodwork, defending their crippled toy to the death.

And yet I get called a "Luddite", by people who don't have a clue what a real computer is - I've forgotten more about computers and technology than most of these fools will ever know. I suppose that's why they think a PHOOOOOONNE is so wonderful, poor souls, they just don't know better. ;)

We’ve been down this road before to no avail.

I’ll make it simple.

I’ll put my $299 iphone that costs $35/mo for unlimited everything on the table.

You put all your wonderful ‘dedicated devices’ on the table that, in aggregate, can perform all the functions the iphone can perform in its sleep, list their purchase prices and their monthly usage charges, and if you, as repeatedly claimed over the years, can do so for less than what I’ve paid above, I’ll eat my iphone on a live Zoom call that everyone on the forum is invited to watch.

If you can't, well, I hope you have a big appetite, & dental insurance 😉
 
Her memory is fine but her microscope broke.

No Way Omg GIF by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
 
Just wanted to add some relevant information to this thread about Sysco, since it's come up several times.

Sysco is likely not a reason why restaurants suck, and this is for a few reasons.

Sysco is a monster food distributor and they have different "lines" of product they sell. They sell to high end restaurants and greasy spoons. They sell to hospitals and nursing homes. They sell to schools and prisons (see what I did there lol). The

Accounts get pricing based on volume and contracts and all that kind of stuff. Sysco buys from the same sources all food distributors buy from. The difference in food quality from restaurant to restaurant varies based on what they buy. There are plenty of "heat and serve" products available, raw products, processed, shelf-stable stuff, etc.

Your favorite restaurant you've ever been to may source some of it's food from Sysco, but also the joint your cousin Eddie stayed at for a few weeks after beating up the guy at the bar that looked at him funny likely does too. There are different products for different industries.

I've been involved in healthcare foodservice for a long time in the SE USA and every place I've worked has some products they buy from Sysco. I'm not defending any distributor, I've just been around their products for years, and it doesn't all suck.
 
Can you provide a few examples please? I'm genuinely curious what you think phones suck at.

They're a mediocre phone and a horrid computer. They probably do ok as a GPS - at 10X the price. I have 3 dedicated GPSes, that I probably paid a total of $400 for. One of them is well over 10 years old, I've never had to replace them as yet - vs the "usual" 2-3 year lifespan of the smartphone. I wouldn't want to do anything on the 'net with one, including email. Too small, too crippled, brain dead OS, no keyboard, no precision pointing device, and no screen real estate. I don't understand why people use them in their cars so much - rather than putting their music on a "Geek Stick" and plugging it in - or using onboard storage, they stream music via a paid subscription service via an expensive data plan with an overpriced smartphone. I'll be the first to admit that they can take good pictures. Bad form factor, not as versatile as my DSLRs, but most of the time they get the job done - when the idiot using the thing remembers to turn it sideways rather than shooting in portrait mode whether or not it should be. Don't get me started on vertical videos...

I certainly could go on about the evils of the things, but that's not your question, and that aspect has only come to the fore (for me) fairly recently. When Jobs introduced the device in 2007, I examined the concept like I do all new tech. What it looked like to me was that the failed Newton PDA had been grafted onto a cell phone. Not necessarily a bad idea, if one wants/needs a PDA. However, I skipped the whole PDA craze as I didn't need one, although I thought they had their place. But at the price that the iPhone commanded, it was a complete non-starter with me. I didn't need it and I was certainly not paying the price demanded.

In short, I didn't see the point of the thing then, and I don't now. I expect to get at least 10 years out of a desktop computer. I upgraded a 13 year old Mac Mini last January at the cost of around $1K. I could have gotten more life from the Mac, but my computing requirements had changed, and I needed something with more horsepower. With the help of one of my dance instructor's husband, I pieced a very nice Linux box together - I was glad for his help as I retired from IT 8+ years ago, and wasn't up to date on the latest and greatest. Will it be the last one I ever buy? Probably not, but I'll probably only need one more after this one as I figure I have about 21 years left to me this time around. But for the computational tasks I do, its fabulous - and certainly beats a smartphone hands down.

Another aspect of smartphones is the fact that they are rightly called a consumption device. I do very little "consumption" - I'm on this forum, watch a few YouToob videos, am on several firearms forums, and do a lot of research on the open web about subjects (many!) that interest me. That's the extent of my "consumption". Otherwise I'm creating - videos, music cuts, a bit of electronic CAD, I like to keep my hand in programming - or "coding" as the youngsters seem to call it now. A bit of light graphic design, and a whole lot of photography. Why would I want to use a smartphone for ANY of that? Oh, and webpage creation/maintenance, and starting to get into mech-CAD a bit as I have a 3D printer. I had 3 large screens on the old Mac, with the new Linux box I added a 4th that is even larger, then I went the other way and got a tiny - more or less smartphone sized - screen that I keep system statuses running on.

Bottom line. I don't see much that a smartphone can do that something else can't do better - usually FAR better, and cheaper.

This just popped up:

We’ve been down this road before to no avail.

I’ll make it simple.

I’ll put my $299 iphone that costs $35/mo for unlimited everything on the table.

You put all your wonderful ‘dedicated devices’ on the table that, in aggregate, can perform all the functions the iphone can perform in its sleep, list their purchase prices and their monthly usage charges, and if you, as repeatedly claimed over the years, can do so for less than what I’ve paid above, I’ll eat my iphone on a live Zoom call that everyone on the forum is invited to watch.

If you can't, well, I hope you have a big appetite, & dental insurance 😉

I'll make it simple: I'm not paying $35/mo, and my dedicated devices reach past 10 years old. I'm not saddled with a crippled, brain dead device that spies on me. How much are you paying to stream music? Or are you one of the few that's actually smarter than that - I hope so. Most of the functions of the smartphone are pointless to me anyway. Read the above - the full extent of my dedicated devices is there. Yea, they cost more than you paid for your PHOOOOOONNE, but HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU HAD TO BUY YET ANOTHER? Never mind the sub-optimal experience of them. The amount you're paying just to feed that thing every month will replace a couple or three of my devices each year (not that I've needed to) - that have no subscriptions attached to them.

"Perform in its sleep?" Give me a break. Let's see YOU do half the stuff I do on my COMPUTER with that broken toy. Let's see you do a PWB layout on the thing - I'll even make it simple for you and keep it at only 4 layers, and won't even suggest blind or buried vias. Let's see - SolidWorks doesn't run on one either - I wonder why? Let's do some movie editing and re-encoding - or graphic design for that matter. You probably can do some clumsy audio editing with it, although why anyone would want to is beyond me. You haven't got the horsepower, you haven't got the software, you haven't got the operating system, and you certainly don't have the the screen or other UI - the UX sucks by the thing's very nature, its hard to get around physics.

I've been using, building (at the chip level), designing, and programming computers and computational hardware since long before most people had ever seen one or knew what one was. I've forgotten more about computers than most will ever know - but I do know that a PHOOOOOONNE "ain't it!".
 
I wouldn't want to do anything on the 'net with one, including email.
There's an app for that.
This is something that stuck out to me, out of your whole post. What you would "want" to do on a phone is vastly different to what a phone can do. Probably the one thing in your post that actually makes sense is using a phone to do any kind of CAD or design work - that's not what they are designed to do. Leading on from that, phones are designed to save time and be convenient. For example, you mentioned music streaming. For the cost of me legally buying every song I want to listen to without opening YouTube, I would probably be in the $1000s. Based on what I have downloaded onto my phone (unpaid, we don't need to talk about that lol), 409 songs, and the average cost of purchasing a song legally ($1.15) that's $470 to not use Amazon or YouTube or Spotify etc. for the same cost, I can use Amazon music for 3.5 years without wasting any time downloading and sorting music. And I can listen to anything I want.

I don't really know anything about dedicated cameras - what can a DSLR do that my camera (pixel 6 pro) can't?

I also don't do much "creating" besides photo editing, so I can't speak on that aspect. I use my phone to communicate, watch YouTube, take photos, and use forums. I've had it for ~3.5 yrs now, and I have no plans to replace it.
 
I don't really know anything about dedicated cameras - what can a DSLR do that my camera (pixel 6 pro) can't?

Attach lenses that cost more than my phone which allow you to do different things that phones can't do.

I also don't do much "creating" besides photo editing, so I can't speak on that aspect. I use my phone to communicate, watch YouTube, take photos, and use forums. I've had it for ~3.5 yrs now, and I have no plans to replace it.

There are youtubers with millions of subscribers who film and edit solely on iphones. Pretty amazing what phones can do.
 
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