Stinger has a point though. Most people are so uninformed that if you tell them you are looking for a D-ring they'll give you what you really want (a bow shackle).
Recommended D-rings?
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Oh mine has a predictive dialer and I hate it. Last week I told my daughter I was going to Publix to get chicken breastfeeding but I actually typed breast. Not sure why breastfeeding is more common but it also changes chicken to children so never tell someone you're cooking chicken for dinner without proof reading before you hit send.
A bit of confusion there. For the typical bow shackle and most shackles, the size, in this case, 3/4" refers to the "wire" size or diameter of the material that forms the body of the shackle. The opening the pin goes through is always wider than the wire size and the pin diameter is always larger than the shackle size. A 3/4" shackle typically uses a 7/8" diameter pin.When looking for your shackle, you want a 3/4" size which is its opening dimension the pin goes across.
Here is a link to US Cargo Control's dimension page for a common bow shackle-
http://www.uscargocontrol.com/Rigging-Supplies-Hardware/Screw-Pin-Anchor-Shackles-Galvanized
If you compare Dimension S to Dimension C you will note that C is almost double what A is.
Also, 3/4" sizing has nothing to do with reality when it comes to winching, recovery, and much else except it is a size that Jeepers like. No more, no less. If you look at the WLL and Safety Factor of that particular shackle, you don't own a winch capable of breaking the 1/2" version on a good day and the 7/16" version the rest of the time.
I learn something every day. I never actually measured the opening to my shackles, something I read years ago mislead me on what that dimension indicated.
The confusion lies again in the misinformed looking for a solution to a problem that doesn't need fixing and in fact makes things worse. No pin shackle of any kind should ever be used in such a way that the is angular loading on the pin. The bad info comes from Jeepers wanting a snug fit between the inner walls of the eye opening and the shackle tabs on the bumpers in order to prevent rattling.
The problem with that is two fold, you can ONLY do a pull that is straight ahead and not angled any other direction and the second is that is purely a looks thing. You can't be a billy bad-ass Jeeper unless you store your shackles on your bumper. Both are wrong and misinformed.
Ideally, the shackle should be allowed unrestricted movement to follow the line of pull to load the shackle correctly or if you have to do a pull that is off angle and the shackle can't follow, then you have to reduce the load on the shackle by a percentage per degree of increased angle.
The more angle, the less you can load the shackle.
And that right there is the laugh-out-loud quote of the day... week... month, or maybe year!
Some are so intent on leaving their shackles on display on their bumpers they'll pay for those $16 polyurethane kits from Daystar that keeps them from making noise/banging on the bumper as you drive around on the street.
I took my shackles off my bumper. I figured that if I need them I'll take them out when the time comes.
$16 kits to keep them from making noise... Haha!
$16 kits to keep them from making noise... Haha!
I'm thinking of hanging a 20' G70 logging chain between mine. Just to evoke smug comments from the elitist snobs. I may look another under the Jeep to connect the front ones to the back ones to REALLY show my dedication to my homies in my mall curb mafia support group
I'd never pay to quiet the noise. i can't imagine hearing it over the wind or the OJN.
Oh where would I get a logging chain. In Zhills they'd think I upgraded my jeep with that
Good chains you have to get from supply houses...but I intend to just get plastic chains and spray paint them gold to simulate yellow zinc
The day on the trail I forgot to remove my shackle after a tug was given to someone scared the hell out of me. I don't normally keep it mounted so I'm used to things being pretty quiet while wheeling. I dropped off a ledge and heard a 'bang' which isn't too unusual so I kept going. More bangs and it became concerning enough that I stopped and crawled underneath. Nothing wrong was observed so I kept going to more bangs and more stops. Then I finally saw that the frigging shackle was still mounted on the bumper and was responsible for the banging. It was half relief and half being pissed as I removed it. I dunno how anyone could keep their frigging shackles on their bumpers.
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This is exactly why I mentioned it. Had the same thing happen. Strange noises really get to me as in Now what the hell is going on!
mgroeger
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I stumbled across this thread and I'm glad I did. I always wondered why some leave them off and some on. I assumed they should be left on but it is annoying when on the trails. The only question I have about leaving them off is where do you connect your fairlead hook to?
I wouldn't want to be that guy on the trail that has to go get all their gear out when they get stuck. I think it's courteous to other people to have your recovery gear ready to go. There are about a million ways to keep a shackle from making noise, just pick one, even zip ties work.
It takes about 1 minute for me to grab my d-ring from my recovery backpack and install it. I keep it in the most accessible spot in the backpack, and that backpack is right against my tailgate. I usually don't worry too much about spending small amounts of time to do things the right way, especially on the trail. Having them slap around all day, get covered in mud, and bounce off rocks could end up costing time if they get damaged.
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