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P0340 / P0344 and limp mode

emedlin

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Once every few weeks my 06 TJ goes into limp mode. It just started doing it a few months ago. I can see the P0340 / P0344 codes. Anyway to tell if it has the original OPDA or sensor? I visually checked the wires going to the sensor and they seem fine. I also disconnected the sensor and probed the harness with the car on (not running) and saw 5v on both the 5v and signal sides of the plug even while moving the wires around. So, the connection seems fine at the harnesss. Should I probe the PCM and check continuity back to the harness? Try a NAPA Echlin CSS1159 sensor? The OPDA is not making any noises, so I assume it is good. It starts right up everytime. Every time it has went into limp mode it was just driving around town, so it doesn't happen when has been sitting and is cold. It is cold in SC now, but I would think it would go into limp mode on start up if cold was the problem. It will run fine as long as it was below 2500rpm. With it not happening all the time it doesn't seem very easy it diagnose, so I am trying to figure out things to test.

Side note, I have a small ODB2 scanner that I use to read codes and values through Torque on my phone. Never had an issue with it on my GM cars, but on the Jeep it will not clear the codes. It reads the codes and displays all the different values fine. Anyone ever see that or what cheap scanner do you use?
 
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LDI is the original OPDA vendor.

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You need to pull the OPDA and inspect the gear and shaft for binding if it is the LDI version.

Be sure to inspect the wiring over the dipstick.

I got those codes when my OEM camshaft sensor went out. Replaced the OEM OPDA at that time.

And you might as well prepare to eventually replace the PCM, as the 05 and 06 PCMs are going to fail.

No issues resetting the codes on my 06 with the OBDlink scanners.
 
Then I'd suggest contacting @Wranglerfix www.wranglerfix.com and either send your PCM in for diagnostics or purchase a replacement.


-Mac
 
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Then I'd suggest contacting @Wranglerfix www.wranglerfix.com and either send your PCM in for diagnostics or purchase a replacement.


-Mac

I thought when the PCM went out you got OS2 sensor codes and shifting issue with automatic transmission.
 
LDI is the original OPDA vendor.

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You need to pull the OPDA and inspect the gear and shaft for binding if it is the LDI version.

Be sure to inspect the wiring over the dipstick.

I got those codes when my OEM camshaft sensor went out. Replaced the OEM OPDA at that time.

And you might as well prepare to eventually replace the PCM, as the 05 and 06 PCMs are going to fail.

No issues resetting the codes on my 06 with the OBDlink scanners.

Looks like I have the Droman one, 689-201. So, now I wonder if I have the orginal sensor. Anyway to tell? I also have never gotten a P0016 code, so maybe my Dorman unit is fine, and it is just the sensor.
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Anyway to tell if I have the original PCM?
 
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Look at the back of your pcm. If it has ridges on it, it is the original part. You can see them without removing it.
 
Look at the back of your pcm. If it has ridges on it, it is the original part. You can see them without removing it.

Looks like I have the original.
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Based on reading I think I am going to change the sensor to the NAPI ECH CSS1159. Considering I have a Dorman OPDA, I probably have the sensor that came with the Dorman OPDA. I am going to go pull it now and see if it has any numbers on it I can look up. Probably pull the Dorman OPDA in a few weeks and inspect it, and maybe just put in the Crown 53010624AC. Engine has 158K on it. No clue when the Dorman OPDA was put on.
 
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It is the OEM unit. How is your shifting from 1st to 2nd in the morning?

It shifts fine. It had some O2 codes when I bought it last year, but 3 new sensors fixed all but one, P0153. I couldn't remove the 4th sensor. And based on the way my exhaust looks (see other thread I created a few days ago), that may have something to do with the P0153.
 
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Little oil on the sensor. Wasn't a lot, so I think it is normal and OK.
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PA66 C or G F25 and 2820 are the only marks I can find on the sensor. Original or Dorman or some other brand? I haven't been able to find those numbers with google yet.
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I put in the NAPA ECH CSS1159 and the check engine light went off. Even the P0153 isn't there any more, which seems strange. It fired right up, and I revved it a few times and everything seems fine now. Time will tell if I get any codes again.

The NAPA sensor also has that PA66GF25 on it. I quick google search on the other numbers on it don't point back to NAPA Echlin either. So, I have no clue how to tell what brand a sensor is based on the numbers on it.

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Do all the Dorman OPDA's die quickly, and I should replace it soon, or should just wait for an error code that points to it or it starts making noise?
 
Well my P0344 code came back and it went into limp mode, so it made it 14 days. Switched if off and started back up without issue and limp mode was gone. Strangely it also had a pending P0133 code. Replace the Dorman OPDA?
 
I think if I was in your shoes I'd be finding a scan tool that can look at the sync. DRBIII or something like that.

For all we know you're just off enough to trigger the code.

Barring that... it's wiring and grounds. Continuity and ohm checks back to the PCM connectors, possibly delooming and visually inspecting the harness and cleaning every ground.

-Mac
 
That code is intermittent camshaft sensor signal.

So, wiring, grounds, cam sensor.

Did you check the wiring over the dipstick?

Wire looks fine over the dipstick. The loom is gone, but the wires look fine.
 
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