Yup , I left Chevy and came to Jeep largely do to the pussification of everything GM gets it's hands on , Thanks Mary !
Jeep sales tanking, buyers say too much tech
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Yup , I left Chevy and came to Jeep largely do to the pussification of everything GM gets it's hands on , Thanks Mary !
Seem’s aftermarket clutch and avoiding the software update will remedy this. I believe I’ve heard of Chrysler even covering cost of part and labor for putting in aftermarket.
Be real Zoba. Back then you had 9 options to choose from. Today, there are probably 900.
Do a YT search and check out the Tank.
Made by BYD out of China and rumored to be in talks with Stellantis, but walked away because they would not separate from Maserati.
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theres one that parks in my underground parking. almost identical in size and shape as my equinox. its electric and makes a god awful noise while moving and than the stupid light show it plays while charging...super stupid.
Be real Zoba. Back then you had 9 options to choose from. Today, there are probably 900.
That is probably the driving factor in why things are done the way they are. A bill of materials will get MESSY trying to fit too many pick rules into it. Think of every option, how many parts it touches, realize that there needs to be a BOM version for both WITH and WITHOUT that option, consider that some parts may be touched by multiple options, and you end up with a number of permutations close to 2 raised to the power of how many options you want to offer. All those assembly and option BOMs should be automated at production time but they had to be generated by humans and at some point you just don't have the manpower to do everything you'd like to do while still meeting the project cost and schedule you were handed from marketing.
If you rid the assembly line of all human intervention, it can be done.
If you want to see an incredible display of robotics, search a YT video on the VW parts warehouse in Germany. Every single part they make is in that warehouse and humans do not enter it. The parts are made, bagged, labeled/barcoded and that is the last time a human touches a part. Even boxed, labeled and shipped without human. Something to watch.
But as a business model, if you can group crap together that encompasses 7 items that are so so items, people will spend the $6k to get that fancier radio.
Well,,,,yeah…If you are OK with not being cool…
Do they still make hemis?
Be real Zorba. Back then you had 9 options to choose from. Today, there are probably 900.
Which is probably 850 too many...
That's becoming the norm for the American midsize trucks
The Tacoma and Frontier are maxed at 6500 and 6650.
What I find interesting is GM could handle this in the past. Even when computers were first integrated into production you could get separate Regular Production Options , (RPO 's) . A few Packages were available Like Super Sport , which included many RPO's ,but most were available separate.
Today's assembly lines and process's are almost fully automated , and production numbers are a joke in comparison to the past , ( In 1965 Chevy built 1 million Impala's alone ) . In 1983 I ordered a T-15 GMC with separate RPO's and built a cool little truck without crap I didn't want or have to pay for. I ordered it in mid April and picked it up in early June for $ 9555.15 .
When I opined that somebody rich would buy Jeep, I was not considering the typical "you are failing so I will buy your most profitable line and give you cash" scenario from another car maker. I was thinking somebody RICH, like Zuckerberg, Ellison, Bezos, etc. Maybe someone who owns or owned a Jeep and remembers what they were and how they were used and doesn't really care about soccer moms and mall crawlers. It could be run like Musk runs Tesla, i.e. "who cares if we make any money this month?"
On another note, back in the day we used things called mini-computers or departmental computers. Think IBM AS-400 series. There were an almost immeasurable number of variables, which was why a computer program was developed to allow the sales guy and customer to configure their product correctly. Once configured, a computer specification file was sent to the factory where the computer was built and tested, then shipped to the user. Today, Cisco does the same thing with their complex products. Configuring an automobile or Jeep is child's play by comparison. The dealership could become a service facility, financing company, end-user prep station, and demo location, with all sales going straight to the mothership in the form of a config file that is built and shipped to the dealer for pickup by the end user. The days of the dealership getting 25% markup would go away. The company, like Ford does today, would have sophisticated analysis software to report which mods were selling and which were not, and which market segments were buying which options / configuration. This would allow the company to intelligently modify its product offerings to maximize their sales, minimize unneeded inventory, and max customer satisfaction. It would/should also radically reduce delivery times. This approach has been used in other types of businesses for at least 30 years.
The company has been heading into the shitter for a while now, hold onto your TJs boys
All this fuckery in the global auto industry & overall economy is really messing with my mojo which used to be the purchase of a new Japanese econo-box once per decade then flipping them into the next, 20k-ish price tag. This past April marked year 10 on my current box so I'm now in uncharted year #11 territory, around 110,000 miles, so far so good, I'm gonna try and drag this fucker over the 20 year finish line if possible. I maintain it well & don't beat on it so barring theft/collision I should be able to git'r done, we'll see. This is how little interest I have in dealing with these devil fucks & their over-inflated over-technology'd pieces of crap
All this fuckery in the global auto industry & overall economy is really messing with my mojo which used to be the purchase of a new Japanese econo-box once per decade then flipping them into the next, 20k-ish price tag. This past April marked year 10 on my current box so I'm now in uncharted year #11 territory, around 110,000 miles, so far so good, I'm gonna try and drag this fucker over the 20 year finish line if possible. I maintain it well & don't beat on it so barring theft/collision I should be able to git'r done, we'll see. This is how little interest I have in dealing with these devil fucks & their over-inflated over-technology'd pieces of crap
Call me old fashioned, but I wouldn't pull that kind of weight with a half ton truck, much less a Jeep.
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