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2007 Mini Cooper S seats in 1999 TJ

Maybe I missed this but what year was track Mini for Corbeau racing seats?

Back in the day, I had my DD 2006 Cooper S modded out for track days (below is at Sebring). Was that what you were asking about?

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Well F. *cktty F F. So moved the pivot point on the passenger side, installed on the metal and hooked in the tumble cable and then then was testing out the tumble and disaster! The higher headrest of the mini hits the windshield and crack. Probably not an issue on drivers side. Might install it and see but I also think I might reinstall factory seats and lick my wounds.




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So just to be thorough - this is what I did yesterday with the pivot point at the front of the seats. First one show old pivot and new one with the nut to the left. Then as installed with the nut and the bolts I bought as I destroyed the stock ones getting them out. I moved the holes about 23mm down but I'd do 20 if I had to redo as I had to deal with some bumps in the metal that far down.

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I live near Seattle and am wondering which machine shop cut your final brackets? It would be worth the drive to the Bellingham area if you thought they could replicate a set for me. I've got a set of 2009 Mini Cooper R56 seats with the OEM brackets. Thank you

I did it all online with sendcutsend. File is attached in this thread. I removed the Oem mini sliding hardware though - and of course see the new posts above for cautions.
 
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Ok this is likely the last post on the project.

So here are some picks of them installed. Lowering the pivot point did help the feel. I might be able to reduce the spacer in the back but it seems ok still so I left as is. *edit* - I did swap them down to 1/2" as it seemed better.

Also 92981A815 is the part # of the shoulder bolts from McMaster Carr.

To protect my new future windshield I will need to add a stop to the tumble. The current stop is circled in red, new one would be where blue line is approx. Might do a cotter pin style so it can be removed as needed.

And finally a picture of the plates because I don't think I showed them this well earlier.

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Cool thread. Sucks about the windshield but cool you kept the tumble functionality, I find it really useful.

I've got a pair of Audi seats I was going to turn into garage seating... Now you've got me wondering if they'd fit the Jeep lol
 
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So here's what I did for the limiting. Just added a trailer hairpin. You need the full tumble to access the back bolts but if you carefully initiate the tumble and then relock the seat upright you can do the full tumble at the base without hitting the windshield.

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Sat in the jeep most of Saturday with 4wdbc run and they definitely keep you from moving as much but my back was still stiff. However my tailbone didn't get sore like the stock seats. Overall they're keepers.

Someone else took this on the trail.

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An addendum to this. At the wrecker (looking for ideas and bits) and other options to look at other than Tiburon are beetles, coopers (the clubman 2dr version also looked like same seats) and as an outlier maybe Hyundai Accent 2dr seats - not sure the tumble would fully work but the fold forward and some have adjustments to raise and lower the front angle/ height and rear height. They are also fairly narrow so should have space. But they are cloth. But as a bonus there is a drivers right armrest which would be nice. If you can live without the tilt forward and tumble there are more of course.

I think the plate I made (file is attached above) would probably work with new holes for the donor seats if anyone so chooses.

Looked at the sunfires/cavaliers but the cloth seats are so ugly and they looked wide.
 
Ok so the good news is the driver's side seems to be a mirror image. I did not have enough aluminum to do a second set but I found some machining PVC which is pretty rigid so I tried that. I realized I did not really give a good image of the parts so see that below (machining preview).

At this point I think I am ready to send it off for cutting - I plan to use send cut send which looks like about $95 for the pair USD delivered just across the border where I can pick it up. It may still need a piece to stiffen the one side of the wide brackets. Maybe the steel will be enough but ideally it would have a bend on the edge. We'll see later I guess.

Only difference on the drivers side is the tumble part is a totally different set up so it'll take 2 approaches when I get to that part. Oh and now that I am in the drivers seat it does feel it needs a little rise in the back so I might need to make a few shims.


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What’s the measurement at the widest point on each bracket?… if you don’t mind thanks
 
Not sure what you mean. At any rate won't be pulling it off to check, at least anytime soon, unfortunately.

I’m about to place an order for some steel bars to make the brackets and i was hoping you would remember (off the top of your head) the dimensions of your brackets I’m thinking I would be ok with a 2 inch wide for the outer ones but the inners I’m not so sure …i might order a 4” …possibly a 5” to be safe.
 
Well the measurements of the plate is in the file (if you open in cad program as I didn't label it). But that I can get from the file. 146.2mm for outer, 46mm approx inner

So 2" and 6". The outers are the wide ones the way I did it.
 
Small update, so my short daughter was using the Jeep and it seems the seats don't end up as far forward as stock seats. She's slouching to get clutch depressed. Ironically she has a mini. I think it's partly the mini position is lower so your legs are straighter. Anyhow not an issue for me at 5'10" but your results may vary.

Looking back at my plates it does look like I could move the holes forward to reduce or eliminate the issue. Maybe when I'm bored one day.
 
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So I adjusted the plate on the drivers side. Moved all the mini seat mounting holes forward 2". The goal here is getting it more comfortable for my daughter and wife for occasional use while still being in a range that works for me.

I'll see if it works for them but for me its fine driving but if I extend the seat all the way back its not too spacious for relaxing in. Not a huge deal but it was better before. If over 6' it might be too far forward now (I'm 5'10").

You need to stay to the outside of the slot for the new holes due to clearance underneath. I also changed the spacer/riser on the back between the seat and the plate from 1/2" back to 1". The 1/2" was just a little too little and I was still fighting the seat when depressing the clutch all the way in (felt fine driving).

1" may be too much but around the block it seemed OK.

Might upload a new file with both sets of holes (or even a variety) and I also think 3/16" steel would be plenty thick.
 
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Hi guys, thanks for the detail writeup and the pointer to the cooper seats. They are easier to get in this place.

My TJ 1997 seats are end of life, frame, seat inner foam all beyond.

Aftermarket seats are relative expensive, would push me easy over 1000 euros to replace and not sure on the quality.

Do not want to have a bucket design, we need to go a lot in and out of the car.

So got some 2012 cooper seats from a local yard.


We spend this Saturday testing things out.

Used some custom bracket to see how they fit and used the cooper sliders.

The cooper runners are spaced much more widely than ones on the original jeep seats.

Next Saturday the driver side, adjust the angle (current angle is to high) and mount the original seat belt receivers. The cooper receivers do not catch current seat belts.

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Your seats don't have the raise/lower hand bar on the side? I thought that was stock.

The custom brackets I used are pitched with the front higher that the rear. The Mini seats and sliders are designed to mount directly to the floor, so the extra height and pitch aren't ideal. Passenger side is fine since they don't have to manipulate pedals, but the driver's position is awkward but it works with my 6'2" height. I would love to find a way to mount them properly level.

I mounted the Jeep seat belt receivers between the slider and bracket in a position relative to the seating, but it won't move when the seat is adjusted. It's just fine as long as you ensure that where you mount it ensures the lap belt stays as a lap belt and not a thigh belt or a waist belt no matter the seat position.

I love the seats though (and the price). I got vinyl ones since I'm in a wet climate. They are incredibly comfortable when driving on bumpy terrain.
 
In my set only the driver side has the raise/lower hand bar.
I will experiment with only lowering the front of the seats, set them almost horizontal, not sure how far i get with the current brackets.
Will laser new brackets if the current brackets have no room for adjustments anymore or if i drilled to many holes in them :)
I could try if the original mini cooper seat belts fit, maybe a better solution.
Lets see if my local yard still have them.
 
Short update
Did not use the mini cooper seat belts but removed the mini cooper seat belt buckle latch and shorten de original jeep buckle and attached it to seats. Grinned the mini cooper seats a bit at the front, lowers the angle a bit, not much room to lower further, the transmission tunnel is in the way.
I am happy with it. Now the driver side and paint the brackets.



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