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05 Flame Red TJ Build
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I'm referring to the video of him crawling across it with the TeraLow in it so we can now see how smooth he is.
LOLoops
I fixed it
I know how amazed I was once I got mine installed and I only had the 4banger.
I had to drive on these shocks awhile. I’m now ready to give my shock report for the Fox Savvy TJ Valved offering on my Jeep. The weight of my rig is 4,008lbs without hardtop, and 4,123 with hardtop.
These are the shocks:
Front
https://savvyoffroad.com/product/fox-tjf4/
Rear
https://savvyoffroad.com/product/fox-tjr4/
Prior experience:
I’ve run stock shocks on a 2004 Sport, KYB on a 2003 Rubicon, old OME, Bilstein 5100’s, and Rancho 5000x on an 2005 X. These shocks were installed on the 2005 X along with a set of 4” Currie coils. Of all these shock setups, the ones with a good travel bias were the stock shocks, the OME, and the Rancho’s. Travel bias for the Fox’s is below
The Fox Savvy were driven on this setup:
33’s, with hardtop and without (slight improvement with), spare delete, rear seat.
Front Coils 16 3/4” (4 3/4” Lift)
Front Shock Travel 4 7/8” Up 4 5/8” Down
Rear Coils 12 1/4” (4 1/4” Lift)
Rear Shock Travel 5 3/4” Up 3 1/3 Down
Buttometer:
Stiffer than the Rancho 5000x. Possibly more control. Possibly as stiff as Bilstein 5100’s. The Rancho’s were more fun to drive IMO.
Onroad
Highways = good
poor neighborhood streets = terrible
Potholes = jarring
Washboard gravel = surprisingly pretty good
Off-road (aired down to 10 psi)
Hill climbs = good
Rock crawling = good
Woopdedoo’s = poor unless you really slow down
Overall one of those shocks you spent more money on so you say, “I’ll get used to it .” If they tuned it for the TJ, I’d like to know more. What weight TJ? Nothing special except they are pretty. I preferred the Rancho’s, but I would like to try them on my new setup before being certain. The Jeep feels entirely different
These are the shocks:
Front
https://savvyoffroad.com/product/fox-tjf4/
Rear
https://savvyoffroad.com/product/fox-tjr4/
Prior experience:
I’ve run stock shocks on a 2004 Sport, KYB on a 2003 Rubicon, old OME, Bilstein 5100’s, and Rancho 5000x on an 2005 X. These shocks were installed on the 2005 X along with a set of 4” Currie coils. Of all these shock setups, the ones with a good travel bias were the stock shocks, the OME, and the Rancho’s. Travel bias for the Fox’s is below
The Fox Savvy were driven on this setup:
33’s, with hardtop and without (slight improvement with), spare delete, rear seat.
Front Coils 16 3/4” (4 3/4” Lift)
Front Shock Travel 4 7/8” Up 4 5/8” Down
Rear Coils 12 1/4” (4 1/4” Lift)
Rear Shock Travel 5 3/4” Up 3 1/3 Down
Buttometer:
Stiffer than the Rancho 5000x. Possibly more control. Possibly as stiff as Bilstein 5100’s. The Rancho’s were more fun to drive IMO.
Onroad
Highways = good
poor neighborhood streets = terrible
Potholes = jarring
Washboard gravel = surprisingly pretty good
Off-road (aired down to 10 psi)
Hill climbs = good
Rock crawling = good
Woopdedoo’s = poor unless you really slow down
Overall one of those shocks you spent more money on so you say, “I’ll get used to it .” If they tuned it for the TJ, I’d like to know more. What weight TJ? Nothing special except they are pretty. I preferred the Rancho’s, but I would like to try them on my new setup before being certain. The Jeep feels entirely different
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My rig weighs:
4008lbs without the hardtop and unknown amount of gas
4123lbs with hardtop and same unknown amount of gas.
4008lbs without the hardtop and unknown amount of gas
4123lbs with hardtop and same unknown amount of gas.
Rear seat. No trail gear.
There’s really not much on the rig, and nothing that doesn’t have to be on it.
my biggest weight penalties:
front bumper and winch 99lbs
JCR rock sliders 90lbs
Rear bumper 39lbs
GTS is a small weight savings
TCAse skid is a weight savings
MCE fenders are a weight savings
I think it’s why I’m getting 4 3/4” lift front and 5 1/4” rear on the 4” Currie/Rock Jock Springs.
I’m at 5 1/4” in the rear. I’m going to keep checking it, but 13 1/4” length now. It’s a bit much, but my rear bumper is 24” at the lowest point. It’s crazy high
I’m measuring total spring length, not including the upper spring isolator.
By middle I think you mean exactly parallel to the frame in the outside of the frame. I’ll go measure again
Measuring that way, yes 4 1/4” lift in the rear. 
I sent an email to Savvy Off-Road about sending the Fox TJF4 and TJR4 back. We will see what they say.
Moved the axle slightly forward to clear the axle side trackbar bolt. Everything clears now and my WB is 93.5. That's pretty close to stock WB of 93.4. I'm happy with that for now.
Are you putting the Ranchos back on, or trying the Black Max's? Took the wife on a trip to the coast over the weekend and drove the Jeep. With 60ish lbs. of gear in the back and my lovely bride in the passenger seat, the Ranchos were ok. They need weight.
