Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ engine mounts

Non highline fenders advantages?

Well this turned into a bunch of purse swinging

Back on topic , I emailed nemesis and they wanted to talk on the phone about it the guy was very helpful

To run there non hi-line fenders

-No stock air intake after market or custom only with the inner fenders

_ special battery only The battery tray is integrated into the inner fenders


Both of those are a no go for me

This may be the reason not many people are using them , might as well go hi line with those requirements

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Well this turned into a bunch of purse swinging

Back on topic , I emailed nemesis and they wanted to talk on the phone about it the guy was very helpful

To run there non hi-line fenders

-No stock air intake after market or custom only with the inner fenders

_ special battery only The battery tray is integrated into the inner fenders


Both of those are a no go for me

This may be the reason not many people are using them , might as well go hi line with those requirements

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Did you ask them about their overlay fender?
 
Well this turned into a bunch of purse swinging

Back on topic , I emailed nemesis and they wanted to talk on the phone about it the guy was very helpful

To run there non hi-line fenders

-No stock air intake after market or custom only with the inner fenders

_ special battery only The battery tray is integrated into the inner fenders


Both of those are a no go for me

This may be the reason not many people are using them , might as well go hi line with those requirements

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One of the many relevant details you could have picked up in all of this is the existence of the little cutout on the factory outer fender lip. One of the knowledgeable people brought it up early on.

Jeep put it there to create a bit of extra room for the tire during articulation.
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Many aftermarket non-highline fenders do not have this cutout, which is a quick way to know that it has less clearance than factory. This one, for example, does not have the cutout.
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One of the many relevant details you could have picked up in all of this is the existence of the little cutout on the factory outer fender lip. One of the knowledgeable people brought it up early on.

Jeep put it there to create a bit of extra room for the tire during articulation.
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Many aftermarket non-highline fenders do not have this cutout, which is a quick way to know that it has less clearance than factory. This one, for example, does not have the cutout.
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Yes I know there is a cut out for clearance. , I don’t think I have seen a set of aftermarket fenders with that feature ,
 
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No I didn’t ask about those fenders , but they look like they just bolt to the fenders that I was looking at so it would have the same inner fender design
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Negative the product is the fender not the flare, it achieve the same look as the replacement but leaves the inner, that at least is my understanding of the product.

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Negative the product is the fender not the flare, it achieve the same look as the replacement but leaves the inner, that at least is my understanding of the product.

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There website doesn’t give a clear description how there installed

Kind of looks like you may have to hack up your stock fenders retaining the stock inner wheel well

At fist I thought it was a bolt on aluminum fender flare for tire coverage
 
Well this turned into a bunch of purse swinging

Back on topic , I emailed nemesis and they wanted to talk on the phone about it the guy was very helpful

To run there non hi-line fenders

-No stock air intake after market or custom only with the inner fenders

_ special battery only The battery tray is integrated into the inner fenders


Both of those are a no go for me

This may be the reason not many people are using them , might as well go hi line with those requirements

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You can add nutserts to their battery tray and flip your OEM battery tray (assuming it’s a later model) 180* and use your own battery.

As for the stock air intake it could likely fit though would take quite a bit of modifying, might not be worth the hassle. I temporarily had my stock intake on until I added the Banks Turbo with their aftermarket intake.

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Are there benefits running non highline fenders on a tj with 35s? Pretty sure I know the answer but I like the flat fender look ,

It just does not look like there would be any clearance gains over stock fenders , looking at genright, and nemesis aluminum front fenders

Just go with what you like, I went with Genrights because I love the looks of there fenders


Oh by the way a 4" Currie lift and a 1" BL and BFG 35's



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Not sure what side you're on, but in this picture the tire looks to be lower than the hood.
The MC fender was not necessary for clearance.

Ya, I haven't installed the tires yet. That is with 33s and still has room for 35s. It was just to show that they added no gain in fender clearance and are not high line replacements. I can run a 35 max. Any more and I would be rubbing. Wish I had my 35s already...
I'll put it on the Metal Cloak flex trailer and ask them why I can get 37s with 5.25" of lift next week.
 
All these pics are just concerned with up. They mean nothing.

Don’t forget that you need more room in the back of the front wheel well too. So when you cycle the suspension you have to put a tire on and turn the tire at max compression and see if it makes contact back.

And whoever took a pic of a tape measure showing the distance between the tire and the fender. That doesn’t tell us anythingzzzzz.
 
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All these pics are just concerned with up. They mean nothing.

Don’t forget that you need more room in the back of the front wheel well too. So when you cycle the suspension you have to put a tire on and turn the tire at max compression and see if it makes contact back.

And whoever took a pic of a tape measure showing the distance between the tire and the fender. That doesn’t tell us anythingzzzzz.

I was looking for information like this when I started this thread , when I spoke with the rep from nemesis he told me that there inner wheel wells were designed to open up back of the fender for clearance when the tire is stuffed and turning left or right. With that comes a ton of extra work and expense of running a goofy battery and intake . Almost as much work as installing hi line fenders minus cutting the hood

I’m not sure how metal cloak was brought up just not a big fan of there shameless logos everywhere on there products, I have there tail lights and quickly disappointed with them after seeing a large M engraved on the side that was not shown on there website. also they came with little screws for the side marker lights that snapped off flush because there screws provided were to long or not tapped correctly

I just try to get as much information as possible before I spend money
 
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I’m not sure how metal cloak was brought up just not a big fan of there shameless logos everywhere on there products, ...

Metalcloak came up because they have created a gullible fan base that believes their offerings have mystical characteristics. There is a years long attempt to teach the basic tech that easily refutes their dishonest and intellectually offensive marketing.
 
Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ engine mounts