Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ engine mounts

Chasing 231J leaks

Well, then tell me what pistons, rings and crank and rod bearings should I be shopping for?

I know DeXJs sells used piston sets. I have a press...so that's not an issue.

Behind door two is a 160k mile used 4.0 and 32rh with factory cruise control sitting in my yard. I am half tempted to yank the harness, HVAC box, controls, steering wheel and complete engine and PCM.

But it's a complete unknown. I think before I exercise door two two...

Option C - stroker kit...

-Mac

The 32RH IMO is a Plus & Minus... I'm not a fan of losing O/D. But what gears do you have now?

After all my engine issues I wouldn't put a engine with that many miles until I went through it... I'd at least do a poorman's rebuild... Rings/Bearings/Gaskets
 
4.88s.

Was just kinda looking at a Jeep Comanche close to me...under $2k. Could throw that engine/transmission at it with a tow bed.

Rings/Bearings/Gaskets is a no brainer for me...but picking the right part so I don't have to do it four times is the tricky part.

-Mac
 
4.88s.

Was just kinda looking at a Jeep Comanche close to me...under $2k. Could throw that engine/transmission at it with a tow bed.

Rings/Bearings/Gaskets is a no brainer for me...but picking the right part so I don't have to do it four times is the tricky part.

-Mac

4.88's & a 32RH seems like a BAD Combo from all I remember reading but I'd have to go back & really look at a Grimmreaper chart...

The biggest issue IMO with a cheap rebuild is do you send the block out to be checked? Then hot tank it and hone/bore if needed. Then you run into the problem of needed oversized pistons if it has to be bored.

A Comanche with a Rockbed would be COOL... I'm a Manche fan...

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4.88's & a 32RH seems like a BAD Combo from all I remember reading but I'd have to go back & really look at a Grimmreaper chart...

The biggest issue IMO with a cheap rebuild is do you send the block out to be checked? Then hot tank it and hone/bore if needed. Then you run into the problem of needed oversized pistons if it has to be bored.

A Comanche with a Rockbed would be COOL... I'm a Manche fan...

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Agree on the 4.88s.

Not just a rock bed...but a full on tow boom and hook for recoveries. Spot for a dolly too.

-Mac
 
Agree on the 4.88s.

Not just a rock bed...but a full on tow boom and hook for recoveries. Spot for a dolly too.

-Mac

I think as long as you accepted that you had to cruise @ 60 MPH instead of 70-75 MPH you'd be OK....

Yep a sort of Tow Mater...
 
Still leaking. Done with this case in it's entirety.

Should be good enough for the weekend.

Anybody ever use power steering stop leak in a transfer case?

It's got to be a cracked front case.

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-Mac

The adding of Stop Leak usually swells O rings and applies a coating of sort inside.
I would be worried whether this would obstruct the fine screening for the pump pickup.
 
Made it to The Dalles. Swapped the soaked pig mat I have clipped to the skid plate out and three pumps filled it up. Case is nuclear hot. Which leads me to speculate the speedo gear I installed wrong that disintegrated... remnants I found in the oil pump pickup screen... perhaps made it into the pump and killed the pump.

Who knows.

Brought 5 quarts of ATF.

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-Mac
 
Ok...been a long couple of days.

Pulled the skid, drained the case and tried a different skinnier o-ring. Fail. Still leaking. Tried the plan B transfer case plug w/original o-ring. Fail. Doped up the plug with RTV and didn't let it cure enough...also fail.

Pulled apart the plan B case. Looks to be a 92/93 casing. Front snout is completely different but the bolt holes line up with my parts.

Pulled my transfer case. Pulled it apart. Absolutely zero signs of a case crack inside. Worst thing I saw was my oil pump inlet screen clogged up with the plastic chunks of a failed speedo gear swap.

Completely at a loss here. No smoking gun.

Here's the plan. Going to put everything back together with Right Stuff. And hope after 16 attempts to get this to stop leaking it just does.

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-Mac

I don't know if I'm late to the party but the planetary gears are cut differently starting around 95? Be careful to keep the sun ring and planetary together respectively. Aside from any bearing differences. As to you last Pic it sure looks like a Crack. Can you pressurize the case and spray soapy water on that potential crack?
 
Drove ~500 miles up to Washington and back. Clipped pig mats under the transfer case and added 1/2 to 3/4 quart of ATF, and changed out the soaked pig mat and wiped up stuff that sprayed off the front driveshaft.

Fill plug was ungodly hot.

Made it to our campground just outside Yakima, WA Thursday night. Made camp, spent the night...swapped out the soaked pig mat, etc etc in the morning.

We drove 50 hard miles that day...40 was pretty rough...4-5 level trail, tons of dust... almost all in 4 low first gear. Checked the pig mat twice during the day and again when we got back to camp around 8 pm.

Dry. Not a single leak. Pulled the fill plug and ATF came out... slightly overfull as I had left it. What the hell?

Drove all the way home today. Didn't check the level when filling up. Pig mat soaked. ATF dripping on the shop floor.

Took the IR gun to the case...most of it was 200, but the center and tail shaft were 220 to 230 degrees.

As an aside I checked the cat...200 before, 380 after...90 degrees on the aluminum skid underneath. When wheeling I left a 3L water bladder on the passenger floor and took a warm shower when we got back to camp...going to get a shower bag and do that more often.

So, no clue what's going on. Going to let things cool off and pull it again tomorrow and see if I can use this 92/93 front case half to replace the front. Also going to replace the front yoke...maybe it's out of round and distorting the seal.

Magic trail dust is the only possible explanation.

@Wildman was talking about PNW companies that make a D300 case and I believe he called it a bare/bear box. Suggestion was double 2.72 ratios for both paired with my AX-15 and 4.88s.

Anyone have links or names of the companies? Behemoth is an option but I want to explore PNW sourced parts first.

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-Mac
 
Sounds like the pumps not working and the case is cracked, but your symptoms are pretty weird and still questions remaining.
 
Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ engine mounts