This is why I hate NSG transmissions
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Well, I have a money market savings account. It currently pays 1.47% annually. That works out to $1.21 in interest for 10 days on $3,000. I don't think interest has anything to do with poor customer service.
Well, that’s good. Where are you going to go from here?m
That AX-15 is starting to look pretty good.
This is seriously making me rethink what I'm going to do to replace mine. Mine has a bearing whine and very notchy shifts.
I'm thinking input shaft bearing and the shift fork assembly is either bent or the pads are gone. No shop around me wants to touch this transmission, which is a red flag for me.
I was going to order a replacement from High Impact because I like having the 6 speed.
One would think that after rebuilding and running the transmission on their dyno, they should have noticed any issues.
I'm thinking input shaft bearing and the shift fork assembly is either bent or the pads are gone. No shop around me wants to touch this transmission, which is a red flag for me.
I was going to order a replacement from High Impact because I like having the 6 speed.
One would think that after rebuilding and running the transmission on their dyno, they should have noticed any issues.
Advanced Adapters told me they don’t know of any reputable rebuilders. It’s one reason why I swapped in a 42rle. Obviously there’s a lot of support for the AX-15.
I wish everyone the best who’s living with the terminal NSG370.
Multiply by 1,000,000, and it still doesn't matter. You really think that $1.21 is enough to care about when dealing with a warranty claim that likely cost them hundreds of dollars in shipping and burdened labor costs to handle the return? You're talking about a financial return well, well below 1%. It simply doesn't make financial sense to hold refund money for the interest.
What about 334 million? This is why I tell my friends they don't want a tax refund. Uncle Sam don't need no interest-free loan from you. They sure don't extend the offer in the other direction.
Okay okay, I'm getting a little off topic here. Haha.
Apples and oranges. Your case makes sense, and it's actually pretty easy to estimate. This IRS web page contains the data you need:
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/filing-season-statistics-for-week-ending-dec-27-2024
Looking there, the total amount refunded was $329,073,000,000. Since that money was collected across a 12 month period, the average holding time is 6 months. So, using my money market interest rate of 1.47% as an estimate, the (simple) interest collected on that money is:
$329,073,000,000 x .0147 x .5 = $2.4 billion (rounding to the nearest 100 million)
However, this analysis results in a completely different financial picture than the one first presented.
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Am I still the only idiot that thinks this is a great transmission??? I’ve put a lot of miles on many of these transmissions (05,05,06,2016,2017). my current 05 LJ has 155k miles and pretty much feels exactly like my brand new 16 and 17 JK.
Their weakness is clearly the shifting mechanisms/shift tower/shift forks… and the fluid, I use Redline MT-90 on all my NSGs, thicker and shift better but I live in the hottest part of the US and shifting a cold transmission is a little slower and clunkier.
Whitebread performance makes a shift guide plate that will help tighten up the shifting, the B&M shifter “fixed” my last 2005 that would pop out of first.
I think the moral of the story is pick your rebuilders carefully.
Been dreaming of a Hemi swap, I was gonna bolt an NSG to the Hemi using a dodge nitro “bell housing” after a rebuild and cryo/rem treat, I think it will be a hoot.
Sorry, a lot of opinions and anecdotal input in my post … I just wish we had good support for this transmission, like the AX.
Their weakness is clearly the shifting mechanisms/shift tower/shift forks… and the fluid, I use Redline MT-90 on all my NSGs, thicker and shift better but I live in the hottest part of the US and shifting a cold transmission is a little slower and clunkier.
Whitebread performance makes a shift guide plate that will help tighten up the shifting, the B&M shifter “fixed” my last 2005 that would pop out of first.
I think the moral of the story is pick your rebuilders carefully.
Been dreaming of a Hemi swap, I was gonna bolt an NSG to the Hemi using a dodge nitro “bell housing” after a rebuild and cryo/rem treat, I think it will be a hoot.
Sorry, a lot of opinions and anecdotal input in my post … I just wish we had good support for this transmission, like the AX.
No, there is no bigger point. You're comparing managing your personal finances with managing those of a business. Having run businesses, I'm telling you there's no return on holding refund money for a week or two.
No, you're not. However, my real-world experience with the 6 speed is very limited. Although I've owned my LJ for 3-1/2 years, I've driven it less than 10,000 miles, and it only has about 55k on it right now. I may come to hate it - time will tell.
I have purchased, or made, all the Mopar special tools needed to rebuild it, along with a new spare OEM shift fork assembly and the brass guide plate for when I eventually have to rebuild it. I also have the B&M tower. In other words, I've done all I can do to prepare for long-term ownership of this transmission.
I've found that, as transmissions have become more complicated (especially automatics), and the manual is becoming a dinosaur, it's hard to trust a transmission shop to rebuild them correctly. I think the shops' technical expertise hasn't risen at a sufficient rate to keep up with the direction of the transmission market. That's why I stick to manuals and do the work myself now.
The other thing is 5 forward gears and 1 overdrive, plus the first gear ratio is very low! New cars are getting double overdrive, placing fuel efficiency over performance… it’s the ratios and quick shifting that I like about the NSG. The AX and its R-series Toyota cousins are not quick to shift, you can slam it in gear and they seem to survive.
But good job doing all you can for a rebuild. You may want to look into cryo treating and REM polishing the gears, it will run cooler, increase strength and most importantly reduce wear on the shift teeth.
I can’t recommend enough bumping up the gear oil thickness. If your in a relatively warm climate redline MT90 shifts great, reduces noise and should protect the internal a bit better.
Me, too, but I've never pulled it off. My taxes used to be very complex (meaning hard to predict), but in simplifying my life as I approach retirement, I may actually be able to do that sometime in the future.
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