Wolfbox mirror cameras

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Looking to get a Wolfbox for my 2000, there was a thread last year in which member @AMS417 mentioned his and I have a few questions

I put a “Wolfbox” camera in the Jeep mostly for being able to back up on the trails and still see behind me. It has three cams and has accidentally captured some funny shit. Replaces the glass rearview.

Did you get the 10" model G930 https://www.amazon.com/WOLFBOX-Parking-Monitor-Reverse-Support/dp/B0BRLYT8M1?tag=wranglerorg-20
and did you get the optional mounting bracket that replaces your mirror or does it fit the TJ mirror as is? Also curious about how you mounted the rear camera.
 
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Given the limited rear view we have in lifted jeeps, I like the idea of a rearview camera mirror replacement. I did a bunch of research of it for my Jeep a while ago. Here are a few things to consider from what I learned.

1. See if you can find a system that is not just essentially strapped/rubber banded/clipped over an existing mirror. It not only looks janky, but also doesn't give me confidence that the attachments will not fail at some point due to exposure to UV/IR from sunlight and hot car interiors in summer time. And how well it fare if you take your jeep on the trails? Considering that you are going to this replacement effort to make something better .. try and find something that isn't a step backwards in function.

2. Most of these cameras try to bundle a forward dashcam and a high mounted rearview camera. Some of them support a 3rd camera input for a low mounted backup camera and then the LCD screen splits the view or lets you switch the view with a touchscreen or buttons or whatever. Pay careful attention to the usability of the system. How easy is it to switch between it being a mirror and LCD screen? How well controlled is glare/dimming? The rearview and the backup view also need different things prioritized for the best view so think about your needs very carefully and learn what works best. Study how the good OEMs do it in the newer cars in the market.

3. Most will advertise and lure you in with "4k ultra high definition" and you might think super amazing clarity like in a good desktop monitor or home TV watching Blu-ray. The sensor may be capable of recording in that, but the display itself will likely not be anywhere close to 4k. Be aware that the clarity you perceive is a combined function of the screen size, screen brightness/sharpness/contrast, screen resolution and the viewing distance from driver's seat. The "4k" number in most of these is for the dashcam - which you aren't going to be viewing as you are driving, even if that small LCD monitor were capable of displaying that in full resolution. The backup camera typically is usually lower resolution. The screen resolution itself maybe just 1080p or 720p and most likely not 4k (feel free to correct me if I am wrong here). As a guide, 1080p (1920x1080) is 2.1 mega pixels and 4k (3840 x 2160) is 8.3 mega pixels. 4k displays are expensive :)

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4. The rearview .. unless the camera has good dynamic range and the system designed thoughtfully to reduce glare and offer some level of auto dimming like the OEM mirror does, night time vision may not be all that you are expecting. Study and understand the limitations of the setup that you are getting. Some systems are designed to mount the camera on the interior of the rear window glass and on some others, you will have to mount outside somewhere in which case the camera needs to be robustly housed and able to withstand the elements. Do your research.

5. Pay attention to overall integration. A lot of the cheaper setups are just a mess as to where they put the various camera input and power input, and you may end up with something like 2nd pic below, that you will be staring at everyday. Even the best possible job of cable routing cannot overcome poor product design.

6. Dashcam feature in these - make sure you understand all the things about wiring and power draw when you have the car switched off and parked. If you desire a dashcam, you may find that dedicated ones are much less obtrusive. But I understand the appeal of an all-in-one system for many people.


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With @mrblaine's help, a very good system just went into mine .. explained here in detail. But I am guessing very few will spend what I chose to. Many folks might simply feel that they can live with mirror-on-mirror look and/or some wires sticking out as price to pay for the better view through the rear. Whatever floats your boat :)
 
Wow thanks for the detailed reply! I'll study this and your other thread before I make my decision. My main objective is to reduce the possibility of collateral damage while backing up, and to have a dash cam. My TJ is seldom driven after dark.
 
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Looking to get a Wolfbox for my 2000, there was a thread last year in which member @AMS417 mentioned his and I have a few questions



Did you get the 10" model G930 https://www.amazon.com/WOLFBOX-Parking-Monitor-Reverse-Support/dp/B0BRLYT8M1?tag=wranglerorg-20
and did you get the optional mounting bracket that replaces your mirror or does it fit the TJ mirror as is? Also curious about how you mounted the rear camera.

I have the G830 and the optional mounting bracket. Less weight on the windshield mounting puck and I didn’t like the rubber bands.

I have mine wired into the fuse panel behind the glovebox. I used the hardwire cable kit.

I also bought their license plate mount bracket for the rear cam.

I really like that I can move the angle as needed by swiping up and down. It also functions as a dash cam with a memory card. No connection to phone app on mine. It’s caught some funny moments.

Since my top is tinted it really helps on the trails. 4k with good night vision is awesome.
 
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I have the G830 and the optional mounting bracket. Less weight on the windshield mounting puck and I didn’t like the rubber bands.

I have mine wired into the fuse panel behind the glovebox. I used the hardwire cable kit.

I also bought their license plate mount bracket for the rear cam.

I really like that I can move the angle as needed by swiping up and down. It also functions as a dash cam with a memory card. No connection to phone app on mine. It’s caught some funny moments.

Since my top is tinted it really helps on the trails. 4k with good night vision is awesome.

I'm glad this got brought up again... Be trying to decide what to get my daughter for a Christmas gift for her car. And this right here is the perfect item & she's commented a few times that she wished she had a rearview camera.
 
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We have the Wolfbox in two JKU and very happy with them. Haven’t had any issues with the mounting (strapped to OEM mirror). Mine is hardwired in, the wife’s still is plugged into the power port.

Haven’t pulled the trigger on one for the LJ yet.
 
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The only 2 downsides I found the with the WB and the optional mounting arm is that it vibrated in my TJ and IF the camera quits or gets broken, the mirror doesn't have the enough reflection to be used as a basic camera.
 
The only 2 downsides I found the with the WB and the optional mounting arm is that it vibrated in my TJ and IF the camera quits or gets broken, the mirror doesn't have the enough reflection to be used as a basic camera.

Good point and and those are both significant things. The usability of the mirror by itself cannot be ignored.
 
The only 2 downsides I found the with the WB and the optional mounting arm is that it vibrated in my TJ and IF the camera quits or gets broken, the mirror doesn't have the enough reflection to be used as a basic camera.

Both good points, mines 99% trail these days. Can’t see out the back with the factory mirror anyway due to tint and dust. Shortly after installing with the rubber bands I had my puck fall off so I reattached and bought the mount.

Lots of options with these things. Some of them had several camera inputs. Haven’t looked in a while, but thinking about installing one in my SxS. Worried about moisture.
 
I see that the Wolfbox has a GPS compass & speed display ability. Anyone ever seen one of these that shows tempature? Obviously it would be excellent if it had it one wired sensor vs app based….