Do they do shift work? Although people don't work more than 32 hours it doesn't necessarily mean they can't run production 24/7.
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Do they do shift work? Although people don't work more than 32 hours it doesn't necessarily mean they can't run production 24/7.
I would agree with that to an extent. A lot of more corporate type jobs won't budge on vacation time, at least that's what I've experienced. The job offer I got back in April / May of this year was pretty shitty to start. Went into it with some insight on what the position pays to start (had an older job posting for the same position from 2 years prior) and expected to have to negotiate some. Went through a month long hiring process and then when I got the offer it was half of the posted salary from 2 years prior and was told there is no negotiating. I pretty much told them it wasn't going to be possible for me because I'm making X currently and its no where close. 3 weeks later I got a counter offer that $40K / year more, but it was too late because my current employer had already offered me another spot. Turns out I was the only candidate for the position at that time and they had to relist the posting and go through the entire hiring process again.
We deal with it to. It's a common theme. Our company historically had a reputation of people always wanting to work here and couldn't get in because no one ever left. This isn't quite reality anymore.
I'm not super great about coming in exactly on time, but I've been told as long as your work is done and you work your 40, we don't really care. Also on the flip side, I've never been told what time I work.... I probably come in 5 minutes late from my assumed start time, but at least one day a week I don't get a lunch and stay up to an hour late for meetings/etc.
I however do not call off (besides maybe once a year when sick) and have never not showed up. I have been told plenty of times by management they really hope I will stay here.
I don't understand why company's do this. I interviewed for a position at local facility of a global company. They agreed my requested wage was reasonable, knew my current, and knew I wasn't looking for a job. They reached out to me. They then offered $20,000 less than the bottom of my range. They were dumbfounded when I declined and didn't even counter. I was told "you know you could have countered". In my opinion, they wasted my time and weren't worth the effort.
Our policy is core office hours are 8-3 and you can work earlier or later at your choice.
I'm a 6:30 to 4 or so person as is most are.
The one engineer would be lucky to be in before 10 and usually more like 11. He supposedly worked late although nobody else would be in to confirm it. I had to talk to him and he came in earlier for about two weeks before resigning.
When everyone else in the office is relying on you for their work and you say things like I'll have it mid day tomorrow but his perception of mid day was 3pm it really messes up everyone else.
Our policy is 8-5 here, required 1 hour lunch (or don't take it and work 9 hours). I work 7ish-4ish but I work with the shop too and their hours are 6-2:30. I try to split as by the time I have meetings almost daily I can only help the shop for one hour or so which isn't sufficient.
Also my wife works until 3:30 and I have zero desire to get home two hours after her.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If they'd been ethical and upfront in the first place...
That would be me. I didn't mind working into the evening, sometimes I was there until 6 or even 7 - just don't ask me to come in in the middle of the night!
An enforced 1 hour lunch is a nuisance. My first job had core hours similar, 7-4. When I woke the production line people up to the fact that they didn't need a whole fucking hour to scarf a sandwich, they started campaigning to get rid of the requirement. It eventually became 7-3:30, as it should have been in the first place.
But the only real problem I ever had with working hours was when my employer implemented a 9/80 work schedule. I raised so much Hell about it, that I was made exempt from it.
Our shop only does a 1/2 hour lunch, us office people, required 1 hour. It's silly.
true, but for the context of my point, it's not the people that make up investment ownership, but contribution is made to their lifestyle by their assets vs their income. Most of us work for our money. I'm talking about the people who have enough that their money works for them. The people who don't have an issue banning gas cars because they can afford electric. They don't notice if gas and milk are $5/gallon or if a UAW contract adds $20k to the price of a new pickup.
We have no required lunch time. The guy I talked about above would always take his at 1:30 or 2. So he gets in about 11. Everyone else takes lunch about 12-1. He takes his at 2 for an hour and then everyone else leaves at 4 or so. In our business that was very difficult to work with.
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this above but there's a theory out there that the big 3 want this strike, and it makes sense.
Covid hits and stymies production, everyone panics, then, as lower supplies collide with the same demand the manufacturers hike prices yielding record profits.
Covid subsides, supply slowly ticks back up, & it's now harder to justify these stupid prices, and inventory starts increasing.
What to do?
We can't wait for Biden to lock the country down again for his own nefarious covid or climate reasons resulting in more bullshit supply chain issues, so let's artificially reduce the supply in another way, but how? We already tried faking ongoing supply chain issues and/or hiding vehicles to create the illusion of scarcity, but the jig is up on that nonsense so we need a new direction.
A strike is the perfect solution, after all, it's the workers going on strike, not us.
What better way to get rid of this abundance of inventory without being forced to price them reasonably than to create another problem on the supply side. If the strike goes on for a month or so, that'll suck up a good bit of inventory and allow the dealers to dangle these vehicles like carrots and say things like you better grab them now before they're all gone. Enough people will panic and sign on the dotted line for a stupid price, record profits will continue, meanwhile the striking workers will become more desperate trying to stretch the $500/week they're getting around their crazy high bills, so they may be forced to cave before the manufacturers do.
Covid hits and stymies production, everyone panics, then, as lower supplies collide with the same demand the manufacturers hike prices yielding record profits.
Covid subsides, supply slowly ticks back up, & it's now harder to justify these stupid prices, and inventory starts increasing.
What to do?
We can't wait for Biden to lock the country down again for his own nefarious covid or climate reasons resulting in more bullshit supply chain issues, so let's artificially reduce the supply in another way, but how? We already tried faking ongoing supply chain issues and/or hiding vehicles to create the illusion of scarcity, but the jig is up on that nonsense so we need a new direction.
A strike is the perfect solution, after all, it's the workers going on strike, not us.
What better way to get rid of this abundance of inventory without being forced to price them reasonably than to create another problem on the supply side. If the strike goes on for a month or so, that'll suck up a good bit of inventory and allow the dealers to dangle these vehicles like carrots and say things like you better grab them now before they're all gone. Enough people will panic and sign on the dotted line for a stupid price, record profits will continue, meanwhile the striking workers will become more desperate trying to stretch the $500/week they're getting around their crazy high bills, so they may be forced to cave before the manufacturers do.
I was fortunate that I was able to do what I did, but I was in Academia. I came in usually around 9:30 - 8-1/2 hours later I'd leave. But my lunch was ALWAYS 11:30-12.
BINGO! We have a winner. The answer to 99 out of 100 questions is money.
Use me as an example. Worked to make big money driving trucks. Gone up to 6 months at a time. Twice divorced, no contact with my children. Have all the time now to spend with family but, no family.
Yes!
Somewhere along the line they had this ah-ha moment. Why return to the old routine of killing ourselves to make as many cars as we can to keep dealers flush with so many vehicles they have no choice but to wheel & deal & ultimately give huge incentives to get rid of the excess in advance of next year’s model? Isn’t it far easier to make and sell fewer cars at a greatly increased profit margin & come out ahead? They didn’t come up with this model, it was essentially foisted upon them and all of us by covid, all the manufacturers did was notice it & seize the opportunity it was. It costs them less to produce fewer cars & if the profit margins not only hold but increase, voila, it’s the perfect scenario. Of course WE all get screwed in the process, but that’s not their concern. This whole mess has fucked up the used car market as well as people turned in that direction to find a car they can actually afford, even if they’re more than they’ve ever been.
What an absolute clusterfuck this whole thing is.
My long-term prediction on what upends this whole paradigm is Elon Musk.
While the legacy auto makers are stepping all over their dicks trying to figure out how to make an EV that they don’t have to take a $20,000 loss on to sell, Musk, who cracked that code some time ago, is already profitable, and is quietly in the process of producing (at some point in the not too distant future), a 25k Tesla Model 2 for the masses. If/when he puts that thing on the market, say goodbye to the big three because he’s gonna suck all the air out of the room.
I’m sure they’ll cling to life pumping out their tech-heavy ocean liners on wheels for the minority of people that want and can afford them, like @Zorba , but the demand will decrease as people won’t be forced to buy these ridiculous monsters anymore. If that prediction comes to pass, I won’t shed a tear for them, because they’re willfully fucking us all right now.
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