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Rust removal (products) recommendations requested

Fact: Owning a good TJ you will never have money left for food.
Tip: Need a coin jar for dimes & quarters so you can buy beer on weekends.

Answers:
1. Wire brush-grind then Naval Jelly-wash then POR-15 then Fluid Film
2. see #1
3. Take you time, do it on weekends
4. Rustoleum products (no bedliner)
5. No

HAHA! No doubt. Jeep = Just Empty Every Pocket. Food is overrated anyway ;) Yeah, the grinder just got some new wheels for this project. I just need to get it out of the garage first so the sparks don't ignite all the crap surrounding the TJ.


Thanks for your replies!


I use a variety of products like POR15 and naval jelly … plus media blasting … but one I've relied on for at least 25 yrs. is B&G Rustremover which is basically phosphoric acid. I've made a few dip tanks for it. Just dip it, leave it for what ever length of time, which depends - an hr. to all day, then rinse it with clear water. It leaves a nice etched ready for paint surface on ferrous metals.


I love the dip tanks! But, I might have an issue trying to get the tub in one of those tanks ;) haha I will check out B&G - thanks for the input!



KBS is another product like POR15. Spray can and brush applications. POR15 has a Spray on/Brush on rust converter that works great. No need to etch metal, just clean and remove flakes as much as you can.

Should go without saying that any of these products when atomized /sprayed should be applied while using a respirator or mask. No children around.


Thanks, I will look into KBS. As you said, it should go without saying, but it is always worth mentioning for those who think they can hold their breath long enough to pass on the mask. I learned my lesson long ago (in my early 20s)


when I was working with Bondo. Blew my nose that night and it was pink...never again did I not use a mask!


+1 for Ospho
+1 for POR 15, this is a great product. If your final coat is going to be in the sun you need to put a top coat on to protect it from UV. POR 15 sells their TOP COAT in rattle cans. They work great.

That's a lot of votes for Ospho and POR 15. I think I need to take a trip up to ACE today... Thanks!


Inside I use Rustolium products. But any quality brand will do. Again, it's all about the prep. And to be sure the paint keeps doing its job. If any wear spots remove the paint be sure to redo that area. Vigilance is the key to rust control.
Those folks out in Arizona and California have no idea how lucky they are.

No kidding about AZ and CA! I am originally from MD near PA. When I was working with CJ's up there, I always always checked the frame in-between the wheels. For whatever reason, northern CJs ALWAYS had rust issues in that spot. (Along with the floor pans, rocker panels, fenders, cargo area, tailgate, hood...did I forget anything? haha)

Thanks again to all!
 
my tub is in really good shape, and really most of my frame is as well. There are some rust flakes inside the frame in front of the rear wheel arches. I've knocked them off best I could top prep for the Eastwood internal frame coating, but as far as I know that's just paint so it's not going to encapsulate the way POR 15 does. Now I'm thinking if I could find some way to apply OSPHO inside the frame, rinse it out with a power washer, let it dry, and then apply POR15 in the same way the Eastwood product goes on...I might actually accomplish something.
 
my tub is in really good shape, and really most of my frame is as well. There are some rust flakes inside the frame in front of the rear wheel arches. I've knocked them off best I could top prep for the Eastwood internal frame coating, but as far as I know that's just paint so it's not going to encapsulate the way POR 15 does. Now I'm thinking if I could find some way to apply OSPHO inside the frame, rinse it out with a power washer, let it dry, and then apply POR15 in the same way the Eastwood product goes on...I might actually accomplish something.
Back in high school I worked for a livestock shipper and I would occasionally use a giant misting wand to spray aluminum brightener on the trailers to remove oxidization. Low pressure tips from a pressure washer were used with a little electric motor to pump the fluid. A flexible hose with a tip like that could be snaked inside the frame. It would be tough to contain overspray but possible.
 
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Dealing with rust is by no means a fun time, but I totally get the need--especially coming from a northern Jeep. I spent hours underneath my Jeep with a wire brush, scraping any surface rust off of it. They even have attachments that you could put on a drill that make it a LOT easier. I then went underneath and painted on some POR-15. Frame is in much nicer condition, and the rust has stopped. I recommend drilling some holes in the frame to have anything on the inside come out. you can then get some fluid film and spray it on the inside. Hope this helps!
 
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