Pellet Stoves

[Chris]

Heartland and Black Hills Gold ( same pellet ) are my favorite ! And that's a great price , I will be paying 375.00 / Ton for western slope pellets , they burn well
, but are not as " clean " as what you have.
I can get Spearfish pellets from " JAX's " Home and Ranch , However they are 400.00 /Ton and they are total wingnut to deal with and let the pellets get wet .
Thanks man.

This was a deal they had going on that ended yesterday. Normally they're $375 which is why I took advantage of the deal when I saw it. Can't argue with that price. I suspect 2 pallets should last me through the winter (we'll see) being as January and February are the worst months I'm told.

 

[Westtown Willy]

I've had a Quadrafire for 20 years, very nice.

Just keep your head on a swivel though, you never know

 

[ColoJeep]

This was a deal they had going on that ended yesterday. Normally they're $375 which is why I took advantage of the deal when I saw it. Can't argue with that price. I suspect 2 pallets should last me through the winter (we'll see) being as January and February are the worst months I'm told.

You can figure roughly a bag a day for supplemental heating in a normally insulated home. You will still be using a fair amount of propane also.
To heat a house in the Wyoming plains with your wind load you will be at 5 - 6 tons if you make the pellet stove the primary source of heat.

 

[Chris]

You can figure roughly a bag a day for supplemental heating in a normally insulated home. You will still be using a fair amount of propane also.
To heat a house in the Wyoming plains with your wind load you will be at 5 - 6 tons if you make the pellet stove the primary source of heat.

Yeah we won’t be using it as the primary heat source. We are just planning to use it as supplemental / radiant heat.

 

[Chris]

Well I decided on a Harman P68. I found a good price on a refurbished model with a 45 day warranty on it.

The P68 is supposed to be very easy to clean and maintain. It also has a 70 lb. hopper which is nice as well.

The previous home owners must have had a pellet stove (or similar) in here at one point because there's a spot on the wall with a block off plate installed and behind it is an outlet to the exterior wall. Should make installing it a bit easier.

This thing should work well for the winter. They say it can heat up to 3900 sq/ft and the upstairs is only 1700 sq/ft.

 

[Shank]

You should love that P68.

Harman user here as well (XXV). Picked it up used for around $500. We absolutely love it. We have natural gas so this is just auxiliary heat. We haven’t gone through a lot of pellets but the super cold days there is nothing better than walking in to the stove ripping.


Photo from a long time ago. Do you plan to go through wall and straight out or? I went through the roof. With my length run 4” is required, it seems most recommend 4” pipe for every install if you can.

 

[LukesfirstJeep]

I went through the roof. With my length run 4” is required, it seems most recommend 4” pipe for every install if you can.

Interesting. When I installed a stove in the mid-80's, 4-6" was recommended for coal, and 8" for wood. Pellets were not considered back then.

 

[Chris]

You should love that P68.

Harman user here as well (XXV). Picked it up used for around $500. We absolutely love it. We have natural gas so this is just auxiliary heat. We haven’t gone through a lot of pellets but the super cold days there is nothing better than walking in to the stove ripping.


Photo from a long time ago. Do you plan to go through wall and straight out or? I went through the roof. With my length run 4” is required, it seems most recommend 4” pipe for every install if you can.
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Mine outlet will go up about 2 feet and then make an immediate 90 degree turn and go directly out the wall.

That plate on the wall is from the previous owners. It goes directly outside and on the exterior of that wall there’s an outlet for the stove that looks like this:

I may have to replace a few things but this should work fine for the outlet I assume.

 

[Westtown Willy]

Mine outlet will go up about 2 feet and then make an immediate 90 degree turn and go directly out the wall.

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That plate on the wall is from the previous owners. It goes directly outside and on the exterior of that wall there’s an outlet for the stove that looks like this:

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I may have to replace a few things but this should work fine for the outlet I assume.

you may want to extend that out a decent bit, with that short of a run you will be getting sparks shooting out of that thing.

 

[Chris]

you may want to extend that out a decent bit, with that short of a run you will be getting sparks shooting out of that thing.

I figured I would have to do something. Perhaps I can port it out the wall and then run it up the side of the house to the roof like a small chimney and attach it to the siding with some brackets.

 

[ColoJeep]

Well I decided on a Harman P68. I found a good price on a refurbished model with a 45 day warranty on it.

The P68 is supposed to be very easy to clean and maintain. It also has a 70 lb. hopper which is nice as well.

The previous home owners must have had a pellet stove (or similar) in here at one point because there's a spot on the wall with a block off plate installed and behind it is an outlet to the exterior wall. Should make installing it a bit easier.

This thing should work well for the winter. They say it can heat up to 3900 sq/ft and the upstairs is only 1700 sq/ft.

Things to consider , go through the wall then install a clean out tee outside , run 5' vertical pipe , then a 90 degree ell , and a 45 degree ell.
Pay close attention to the direction of prevailing wind .

You don't want to be deadheading your stove discharge into the oncoming 75 m.p.h Wyoming breeze. The vertical pipe help create a natural draft , so if you have a power outage it reduces the chance of smoke getting in your house. These two item will make for a successful install . Even if you have stand by power the vertical pipe is a good idea.

The minimum clearances are on the stove and very important. Enjoy the new to you stove Chris !

 

[Chris]

Things to consider , go through the wall then install a clean out tee outside , run 5' vertical pipe , then a 90 degree ell , and a 45 degree ell.
Pay close attention to the direction of prevailing wind .

You don't want to be deadheading your stove discharge into the oncoming 75 m.p.h Wyoming breeze. The vertical pipe help create a natural draft , so if you have a power outage it reduces the chance of smoke getting in your house. These two item will make for a successful install . Even if you have stand by power the vertical pipe is a good idea.

The minimum clearances are on the stove and very important. Enjoy the new to you stove Chris !

Good advice! Does it matter if the wind changes directions? It seems to switch between north and south winds quite often.

I’m going to have to read the manual for this stove but what you’re describing sounds more or less like what I had in mind.

 

[ColoJeep]

Good advice! Does it matter if the wind changes directions? It seems to switch between north and south winds quite often.

I’m going to have to read the manual for this stove but what you’re describing sounds more or less like what I had in mind.

What direction does the discharge wall face ?

 

[Apparition]

Growing up we had a really nice wood stove in our basement. It was large enough you could put a 10" log in it and heat the house easily. Basement was drive in so we could park a wagon of wood next to the stove too.

Eventually we had a couple of close calls on the chimney, one that we even called the fire department. Dad had the fire out before they arrived.

After I moved out they removed it and installed an outdoor wood furnace which worked just as well but kept the risk and the wood outside. It also had a coil system that supplemented the water heater in addition to simply heating the house.

If it were me I'd look at an external furnace.

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[Chris]

What direction does the discharge wall face ?

NW

 

[ColoJeep]

NW

That can work , just 90 ell at the top of the vertical and 45 down off the 90. Both Ells perpendicular to the wall.

 

[Westtown Willy]

I figured I would have to do something. Perhaps I can port it out the wall and then run it up the side of the house to the roof like a small chimney and attach it to the siding with some brackets.

I did the install on this in 2004, followed whatever code there was at the time, this is a 6 foot run to the ceiling plus another 2+ up in the attic before the 90 degree turn then another 2 feet out from the siding

 

[Chris]

That can work , just 90 ell at the top of the vertical and 45 down off the 90. Both Ells perpendicular to the wall.

That makes perfect sense. I’ll remember this when I’m putting it together.

Do they recommend using PVC or metal for the exterior piping? Could have sworn I heard someone tell me to use PVC because it was more efficient.

 

[Chris]

I did the install on this in 2004, followed whatever code there was at the time, this is a 6 foot run to the ceiling plus another 2+ up in the attic before the 90 degree turn then another 2 feet out from the siding

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I’m looking forward to the heat since it’s snowing today!

 

[ColoJeep]

That makes perfect sense. I’ll remember this when I’m putting it together.

Do they recommend using PVC or metal for the exterior piping? Could have sworn I heard someone tell me to use PVC because it was more efficient.

ABSOLUTELY NO PLASTIC !!!! Use simpson pellet pro double wall pellet stove rated pipe !!!