Looking for backpacking stove recommendations

I keep seeing lighters mentioned and many years ago I attended an REI lightweight backpacking class and they showed this butane torch lighter and it's awesome. Uses cheap lighters from the gas stations.

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005G3PQJQ?tag=wranglerorg-20
 
I keep seeing lighters mentioned and many years ago I attended an REI lightweight backpacking class and they showed this butane torch lighter and it's awesome. Uses cheap lighters from the gas stations.

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I picked one of those up recently, and its great. I keep it on my workbench. I initially used it for shrink tubing, but I find myself reaching for it more and more for multiple other reasons.
 
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For cold temps, and at altitude, you need a fuel with a low boiling point and high vapor pressures. Of the bottled gases, propane is the best in those regards, and by a fair bit. Butane is the worst. Isobutane is in between. Many of the canister gases (not propane canisters, but the smaller ones) are mixtures of those three, but what happens when you use them at cold temps or at altitude is that you ultimately end up carrying dead weight because the propane that's in them will burn up first, and then your partially-used canister becomes useless because the remaining gases won't burn.

White gas, on the other hand, is an excellent winter/high altitude fuel. That's why I switch to a white gas stove in those situations.

It's also why I don't carry "fancy" lighters. They all run on butane, which is horrible in cold/high alts. When I'm in the backcountry, you'll find Bic lighters in all my packs and on my person, along with stick matches in a waterproof canister. The Bics also run on butane, but they are cheap enough that you can stash them in multiple places. The stick matches are for cold and high altitude because that's the only reliable ignition source I've found (other than flint and a striker).

Stay safe out there, gents!
 
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Yes, that's a white gas stove, as I mentioned above. Great performance in cold weather!

Yep. Little extra priming on the MSR and I’ve cooked at timberline in the snow. Same for my OG Coleman dual burner white gas.
 
I'll throw this out as well. I've had one since about 1968 (I'm an old fart) and my first outing on the Pacific Crest Trail.
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A Svea 123. I think they might still sell these.
 
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The MSR Reactor line is killer in sub-freezing temps and high winds as long as you keep the fuel canister warm. I use a Moulder Strip on the canister and iso-propane is fine at near 0F. Without it, iso-propane will just sputter along uselessly... as @gasiorv found out.

You can also heat the bottom of the fuel canister with a cig lighter, but as soon as you put it down it will chill and die. If you're fast you can heat water and pour it in your food bowl, sit the canister in there to warm it, and kinda get by with that.. if you had to. You'll have to keep replenishing the hot water.

I use the Jetboil Mini Mo and a Jetboil Zip if I don't need the added capacity of the Mini Mo. I am fine in sub-zero temps with the iso-propane. Both are fine in all but the windiest conditions.

Whisperlite if you are a baller and want a dedicated winter white gas setup.

Regarding the mini-bic as backup to the piezo igniters.. make sure you keep it in your pocket. They are useless once the get really cold. I've been know to suck on the mini-bic to warm it enough to get it to light
 
Keep a few things in mind when choosing a backpacking stove.

- Propane is not great for super cold conditions but the canister can be warmed with body heat if you aren't already suffering from hypothermia.
- Propane canisters are sorta wasteful.
- Propane stoves (without propane) can be transported in luggage on commercial aircraft without concern.
- Propane stoves stoves are more convenient to use with no chance of spillage and the associated fire risk compared to white gas stoves.
- White gas stoves function well in all conditions, including severe cold.
- White gas fuel containers are reusable.
- White gas stoves that have been used can be problematic when flying commercially due to fuel residue. I haven't tried but would anticipate issues.
 
Keep a few things in mind when choosing a backpacking stove.

- Propane is not great for super cold conditions but the canister can be warmed with body heat if you aren't already suffering from hypothermia.
- Propane canisters are sorta wasteful.
- Propane stoves (without propane) can be transported in luggage on commercial aircraft without concern.
- Propane stoves stoves are more convenient to use with no chance of spillage and the associated fire risk compared to white gas stoves.
- White gas stoves function well in all conditions, including severe cold.
- White gas fuel containers are reusable.
- White gas stoves that have been used can be problematic when flying commercially due to fuel residue. I haven't tried but would anticipate issues.

Good points. One more, I had a Coleman white gas stove that would burn unleaded gasoline.
 
I've also used one of those primus burners for years. The piezio ignitor died long ago. But looking at what's available, I think I'm going to try the soto windmaster.

With an aluminum windscreen, this style burner been good. Along with some teflon coated titanium pots light and flexible.

https://www.amazon.com/Windscreen-A...eld-Carrying/dp/B0F1B7D194?tag=wranglerorg-20

The locked in pot and burner system of the jetboil/windburner/reactor stuff has always been a bit of a turnoff to me and I like the option to cook thing other than freeze dried meals. But my dad converted long ago.

I still have my whisperlite, though I've always found it a bit fussy.
 
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That said, any of the isobutane-propane stoves are great. So much better than liquid fuel.
I remain a liquid fuel user. MSR's stoves have been great over the decades they have been making them but I refuse to go canisters. My first decent backpack stove was the Seva 123 which I used with the Sigg tourist windscreen/pot-ancient history six and a half decades back. That actually worked pretty well with the addition of the pump. Then the MSR parade: GK, GKX, Firefly, and finally the WisperLite International which remains my go-to stove and has provided stellar service. The polar opposite of canisters, like the GK and GKX, it can burn just about anything but maybe cat pee. And they could absolutely give a crap how cold it is. Canisters are maybe not a problem if your use is limited, but you end up with a pack full of canisters for long trips. I easily get by for a week on a 30 oz MSR fuel bottle and there isn't any waste involved.

I use a titanium Evernew 4L pot with the WisperLite and usually boil a full pot for both breakfast and dinner (self/wife/3 canines all on freeze dried).
 
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I've never heard the term "white gas". We call that petrol here.

The correct term is naphtha, basically uncracked gasoline. It was once sold in bulk as "tractor fuel" in the days of gasoline powered tractors, with universally low compression engines. I hand pumped many thousands of gallons of that stuff in my father's antique tractors when I was a kid and also used it in my very first "backpack" stove, a Coleman 530. Still have that stove.
 
The correct term is naphtha, basically uncracked gasoline. It was once sold in bulk as "tractor fuel" in the days of gasoline powered tractors, with universally low compression engines. I hand pumped many thousands of gallons of that stuff in my father's antique tractors when I was a kid and also used it in my very first "backpack" stove, a Coleman 530. Still have that stove.

I had a Coleman backpack stove, model 400. It would burn the Coleman fuel or unleaded gasoline. The good old days.