The good ole "oh shit we made something noone wants" move
Certain "people" wanted it...
I'm sure there were no financial incentives involved.
The good ole "oh shit we made something noone wants" move
Certain "people" wanted it...
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I'm sure there were no financial incentives involved.
Certain "people" wanted it...
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I'm sure there were no financial incentives involved.
Nice lil 20 billion dollar mistake...
Beat me to it.
I've been very happy with my chebby volt, and think EREVs like that are the way to go with today's tech and infrastructure. Electric really is best for the daily commute, and gas is best for long trips. For those that can only have 1 car (losers!) EREVs cover both. If they can be produced affordably.
There's still one limitation with EVs, and certain hybrid setups, that I just don't see the market overcoming anytime soon, and that is deprecation and repair cost, which is the primary reason I will not consider one. I read a statistic a year or two ago that said the average age of a tagged vehicle in my state is almost 15 years old. At 15, the average ICE vehicle still has life and value while the average EV/hybrid battery is dead and cost more to replace than the vehicle is worth, rendering it a brick with about the same scrap value.
Average maintenance costs and total lifecycle costs are lower for EVs,
I still want to add a Tesla as a commuter but the technology isn't there for distance or hauling so it'd never replace my truck especially how we run it.
I thought Dodge's EREV Ram announcement sounded fantastic. If those specs ever materialize it'll be very popular.
I need something F350 sized.
Average maintenance costs and total lifecycle costs are lower for EVs
I haven't seen any attempts to electrify that category yet. You could go bigger...
In 25 years, I've been hit 4 times driving back and forth to work.
I need something F350 sized.
I've heard/read that argument, always at a very surface level "electricity-is-cheaper-than-gas", but I've never seen actual cost on paper, have you? As a sole proprietor, I own and operate a work vehicle, and I need to know my actual expenses. Lately I've been running Civics and I know it cost approximately $0.25 per mile for those cars to run (fuel, oil, tires, brakes, taxes/insurance, all typical maintenance, and depreciation for time/miles, etc.) I also know that it cost about 3X that to operate my truck or Jeep, but that really has nothing to do with this convo, just extra info that I figured out. I honestly can't imagine something like a Tesla Model 3, the most comparable to a Civic, could be operated at total cost for significantly less than $0.25 per mile. Sure, the fuel to run an EV is cheaper, but typical maintenance parts/services cost more and general depreciation is generally greater for these EVsover the life of the vehicle, plus the whole end-of-life issue.
@srimes posting all those pictures, I can only guess you were at the lemay car museum?
It depends on how much you drive, if you're like me, it doesn't really matter how much it costs per mile because I don't drive enough for that to offset the cost of insurance and purchase price.
I also like that my normal vehicles lives are extended (temporally) because I don't drive much.
With the size/weight of the average modern vehicle, that's a concern of mine about the smaller vehicles. I drive a relatively recent generation Civic daily, and it's a pretty safe and robust vehicle, but if something like a EV Hummer or 3500 hit me hard, God forbid one of the flip flop truckers gets behind me, I don't have much of a chance, at least not like if it was a similarly sized vehicle.
