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How can this happen? I thought Teslas had all sorts of nanny state controls
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Liberian flagged ship carrying Chinese EVs bound for Mexico - now on fire and abandoned

https://carbuzz.com/sailors-abandon-ev-car-carrier-from-china-after-fire-breaks-out/


The cargo ship called the Morning Midas left Yantai, China on May 26, 2025, headed for Lázaro Cárdenas in Mexico, scheduled to arrive by June 15th. However, the ship will likely no longer make that date, as it is now burning in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, said to be about 300 miles to the southwest of Adak, Alaska.

The U.S. Alaskan Coast Guard first publicly reported the incident online at around 2 AM on June 4th, 2025, when it claimed that the ship's crew was actively fighting the blaze. In a statement, ship manager Zodiac Maritime claimed the crew of 22 could not bring the blaze under control and were forced to safely evacuate by the U.S. Coast Guard to a standby merchant ship that responded to help. No injuries have been reported yet. Now, the USCG reports that a Coast Guard cutter is en route to assist, along with Coast Guard air power. There are reportedly at least three other vessels at the scene providing further assistance.

The Morning Midas is said to be holding around 3,000 new vehicles, about 800 of which are reportedly electric vehicles of some kind.
 
Liberian flagged ship carrying Chinese EVs bound for Mexico - now on fire and abandoned

https://carbuzz.com/sailors-abandon-ev-car-carrier-from-china-after-fire-breaks-out/


The cargo ship called the Morning Midas left Yantai, China on May 26, 2025, headed for Lázaro Cárdenas in Mexico, scheduled to arrive by June 15th. However, the ship will likely no longer make that date, as it is now burning in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, said to be about 300 miles to the southwest of Adak, Alaska.

The U.S. Alaskan Coast Guard first publicly reported the incident online at around 2 AM on June 4th, 2025, when it claimed that the ship's crew was actively fighting the blaze. In a statement, ship manager Zodiac Maritime claimed the crew of 22 could not bring the blaze under control and were forced to safely evacuate by the U.S. Coast Guard to a standby merchant ship that responded to help. No injuries have been reported yet. Now, the USCG reports that a Coast Guard cutter is en route to assist, along with Coast Guard air power. There are reportedly at least three other vessels at the scene providing further assistance.

The Morning Midas is said to be holding around 3,000 new vehicles, about 800 of which are reportedly electric vehicles of some kind.

The only way they're gonna put that fire out is to sink the ship.
 
As Elon Musk touts robotaxis in Austin, federal regulators are investigating whether the system is dangerous even with a human behind the wheel.

By Dana Hull and Craig Trudell
June 4, 2025 at 10:00 AM UTC

The setting sun was blinding drivers on the Arizona interstate between Flagstaff and Phoenix in November 2023. Johna Story was traveling with her daughter and a co-worker in a black Toyota 4Runner around a curve that turned directly into the glaring sunlight. They pulled over to help direct traffic around two cars that had crashed.

Back before that curve, Karl Stock was behind the wheel of a red Tesla Model Y. He had engaged what the carmaker calls Full Self-Driving, or FSD — a partial-automation system Elon Musk had acknowledged 18 months earlier was a high-stakes work in progress.

In a few harrowing seconds, the system’s shortcomings were laid bare by a tragedy. The Tesla hit Story, a 71-year-old grandmother, at highway speed. She was pronounced dead at the scene.

Story’s death — one of 40,901 US traffic fatalities that year — was the first known pedestrian fatality linked to Tesla’s driving system, prompting an ongoing federal investigation into whether Full Self-Driving poses an unacceptable safety risk. Bloomberg News is publishing photos and partial footage of the crash, which was recorded by the Model Y and downloaded by police, for the first time after obtaining the images and video through a public-records request.

As the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration investigates whether Tesla’s human-supervised driving system is potentially defective, the company is proceeding with plans to deploy a small number of vehicles without anyone behind the wheel.

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As Elon Musk touts robotaxis in Austin, federal regulators are investigating whether the system is dangerous even with a human behind the wheel.

By Dana Hull and Craig Trudell
June 4, 2025 at 10:00 AM UTC

The setting sun was blinding drivers on the Arizona interstate between Flagstaff and Phoenix in November 2023. Johna Story was traveling with her daughter and a co-worker in a black Toyota 4Runner around a curve that turned directly into the glaring sunlight. They pulled over to help direct traffic around two cars that had crashed.

Back before that curve, Karl Stock was behind the wheel of a red Tesla Model Y. He had engaged what the carmaker calls Full Self-Driving, or FSD — a partial-automation system Elon Musk had acknowledged 18 months earlier was a high-stakes work in progress.

In a few harrowing seconds, the system’s shortcomings were laid bare by a tragedy. The Tesla hit Story, a 71-year-old grandmother, at highway speed. She was pronounced dead at the scene.

Story’s death — one of 40,901 US traffic fatalities that year — was the first known pedestrian fatality linked to Tesla’s driving system, prompting an ongoing federal investigation into whether Full Self-Driving poses an unacceptable safety risk. Bloomberg News is publishing photos and partial footage of the crash, which was recorded by the Model Y and downloaded by police, for the first time after obtaining the images and video through a public-records request.

As the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration investigates whether Tesla’s human-supervised driving system is potentially defective, the company is proceeding with plans to deploy a small number of vehicles without anyone behind the wheel.

More at link
They should have at the very least stuck to keeping the sonar on those instead of trying to do a system that works purely of cameras, if you look at the amount of sensors the Waymo's have they can see 300 metres out 360 degrees and even those have been taken off the road and recalled.
 
They should have at the very least stuck to keeping the sonar on those instead of trying to do a system that works purely of cameras, if you look at the amount of sensors the Waymo's have they can see 300 metres out 360 degrees and even those have been taken off the road and recalled.
They’re still running all around the Phoenix area.
 
They should have at the very least stuck to keeping the sonar on those instead of trying to do a system that works purely of cameras, if you look at the amount of sensors the Waymo's have they can see 300 metres out 360 degrees and even those have been taken off the road and recalled.

I thought the new Teslas were more than just cameras?
 
I thought the new Teslas were more than just cameras?

they dropped them down to camaras only during the pandemic and musks claims for the last 10 years has always been that all Teslas will just need a software upgrade for full self driving. (which has always been 2 years away)

"Telsa will soon delete ultrasonic sensors across its electric vehicle line-up as it shifts to camera-only technology – despite key parking assist features being unavailable.

Following the previous removal of radar equipment in early 2021, the brand’s camera system – known as Tesla Vision – will now perform all driver-assistance technology."

Tesla will phase out ultrasonic sensors from the Model 3 and Model Y globally, starting in October, followed by the Model S and Model X in 2023.
https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/te...removed-camera-only-tech-lacking-key-features
 
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They’re still running all around the Phoenix area.

cool but they recalled 1200 of them back in may 2025 and 670 of them back in june 2024, my point was that they are way more advanced than the teslas and have sensors coming out the wazoo and still have issues

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Waymo recalled over 1,200 of its self-driving vehicles after the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) found that they had a tendency to crash into roadside barriers like chains and gates. The issue stemmed from a software problem that Waymo identified and fixed with a software update rolled out in late 2024. The recall was a voluntary action to address regulatory reporting obligations, according to Waymo.

Waymo recalled more than 670 vehicles in June after one of them struck a wooden utility pole in Phoenix in May 2024. The company said the automated driving software could fail to avoid a pole or similar object.
 
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