Catastrophic Loss Of Engine Oil

[SOLIVAGANT]

About 1000 miles on this oil filter, a Fram PH16. I started hearing a strange rattle on cold starts, but this morning it had an audible shift in the sound, and I shut the engine off and found the puddle of oil and engine all oil all over the compartment. upon inspection, I could see that part of the oil filter gasket had pooch out to the side and seem to be the source of the catastrophic leak. When I took the oil filter off, it was noticeably balloon out of the bottom. Could this just be a catastrophic failure of this filter or could there possibly be a larger cause?

 

[macleanflood]

Probably combustion gasses. My guess is you blew a head gasket. At least your radiator didn't explode.

-Mac

 

[hear]

About 1000 miles on this oil filter, a Fram

All that extra HP comes at a cost.




(kidding, "inside joke" on the forum)

 

[macleanflood]

All that extra HP comes at a cost.
(kidding, "inside joke" on the forum)

Not getting 45 mpg any more... =)

I should have bookmarked that post. I'll see if I can find it and edit this.

-Mac

 

[SOLIVAGANT]

Probably combustion gasses. My guess is you blew a head gasket. At least your radiator didn't explode.

-Mac

Whoa.. wouldn’t there be more signs? Since the noise started, I’ve driven about 500+ miles. Mostly highway

 

[SOLIVAGANT]

All that extra HP comes at a cost.




(kidding, "inside joke" on the forum)

Shoot, so Fram is a big no bueno??

 

[hear]

Shoot, so Fram is a big no bueno??

nah, somebody made some insane claims about increased MPG or HP when using a fram oil filter.

 

[SOLIVAGANT]

nah, somebody made some insane claims about increased MPG or HP when using a fram oil filter.

Oh! lol

 

[macleanflood]

Found it!

Thread '42 mpg in a TJ'

May 3, 2025

Ok. Thanks guys. Update. I still havent fixed it. The engine runs colder without bypass. But 11$ in coolant every 3 months is ridiculous and the fumes lol. As you would expect. 163,000 miles now, but god damn i live this jeep. The pressure calculations are for overflow of the coolant for whomever asked. Heat and less fluid and less circulation means more pressure. More pressure results in corrosion. Anyway. I try my best with it. I try to know everything about it. Im quite capable but resources for self care of vehicles are almost dried up in the real world and guys like us are going...

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-Mac

 

[B1Toad]

Any chance the old gasket got left in place last time? Did you lube the new gasket with fresh oil? Did you hand tighten only?

 

[SOLIVAGANT]

Any chance the old gasket got left in place last time? Did you lube the new gasket with fresh oil? Did you hand tighten only?

Nope, yep, and yep

 

[SOLIVAGANT]

Probably combustion gasses. My guess is you blew a head gasket. At least your radiator didn't explode.

-Mac

Hey Mac, how would the gases do something like this? Just trying to see the picture better.

 

[BC Moto]

Im not sure what caused it but that was alot of pressure to expand that filter and maybe enough to push the gasket out also.

 

[B1Toad]

Nope, yep, and yep

oops my bad, I didn't notice in your initial post how the filter was bulged out, following along to see what it turns out to be.

 

[Ashim]

Wouldn't be the first time a Fram filter failed. I'd clean everything up, install a Wix or Napa Gold filter, top off the oil and start up the engine. Do this first before jumping to conclusions about a blown head gasket.

 

[macleanflood]

Hey Mac, how would the gases do something like this? Just trying to see the picture better.

Overpressurizes the oil. Could also be a failure in the oil pump relief valve.

Typically only seen on engines with boost from turbos and superchargers.

Might want to check your oil pressure with a mechanical gauge.

But like most folks have said...and Occam's Razor - most likely it's just a crappy oil filter.

That and if you've gone 500 miles with no additional symptoms...like say a massive loss of coolant or chunking a rod out the block then you're most likely good to go.

-Mac

 

[SOLIVAGANT]

Awesome, thanks for the replies you guys. I’m finishing up doing a field cleaning (I happened to have a spare filter with me… another Fram). But I’ll be giving it a fire here soon.

 

[Obi-Wan]

Not getting 45 mpg any more... =)

I should have bookmarked that post. I'll see if I can find it and edit this.

-Mac

You didn't even ask what his tire circumference is, am I right lol! What about the pitch of the road?!?!?!?!

There are days I miss him, and most I don't.

 

[Rickyd]

Probably combustion gasses. My guess is you blew a head gasket. At least your radiator didn't explode.

-Mac

There aren't any oil ports in the head gasket to receive cylinder pressure. The top end is oiled through the pushrods.

Speaking of the top end,O.P. is there oil coming out of your pushrods? What is your oil pressure?
If it isn't the filter itself i would think a blockage in an oiling passage or stuck bypass in the pump. Swap the filter and check the oil pressure with a mechanical gauge like this one.

 

[TheBoogieman]

You didn't even ask what his tire circumference is, am I right lol! What about the pitch of the road?!?!?!?!

There are days I miss him, and most I don't.

You're in luck!
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