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Carpet replacement ideas

I renovated a van into a camper van so I have a good amount of experience in this area. During my reno (and most other people too) you rip everything out so it's basically a tin can. Let me tell you, it's loud! There is a company out there called Killmat, but it tends to be hard to find and overpriced. Another company Siless is the same thing and always available. I can't say enough about it. They are pre cut squares, you just peal the back and stick it on. You can cut it before or after with a utility knife for exact fits, it's easy. They also come in different thickness's for more sound deadening. Then just throw your carpet on top of that. I'm fairly certain I'm going to do it this fall after a few other projects.

https://www.amazon.com/Siless-mil-sqft-Sound-Deadening/dp/B0BKP6JDWD/?tag=wranglerorg-20
 
I’ve been planning on installing BedRug as my TJ didn’t come with the rear carpet but if it really has no sound or heat insulating benefits then I don’t think that’s the way to go for me.

@JMT would you agree that it doesn’t insulate at all?

Hey, I put the full BedRug kit in my TJ a few months ago and have been really happy with it. It fit fine, not "prefect" I suppose, but really well. There is also a heat shield layer that mine included to go over the tunnel that stuck to the bottom of the BedRug before installation. Maybe that's something they've added to newer kits? But it definitely blocks most of the heat on the tunnel.... by comparison with no carpet/BedRug, that area gets HOT. With BedRug it's much much cooler to the touch.

I haven't even installed the velcro strips yet and daily drive the Jeep. It's a very snug fit and has stayed in place perfectly.

It's definitely not going to be as plush as the thick ACC carpet, but it does everything I was wanting it to do.


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Is there a carpet kit that adds the hook to hold the weathertech mats in place?

I didn't think of the hook idea when I added plugs to hold my mats. Instead I drilled holes high up and used plugs to hold my mats on my bedlined floor. I will be switching to hooks, preferably with a safety latch on them. This will make removing the mats for cleaning much easier. The hooks will be so high up that they are invisible. My tan Jeep Logo front mats come with holes for the hooks too. Thanks for the idea.
 
I didn't think of the hook idea when I added plugs to hold my mats. Instead I drilled holes high up and used plugs to hold my mats on my bedlined floor. I will be switching to hooks, preferably with a safety latch on them. This will make removing the mats for cleaning much easier. The hooks will be so high up that they are invisible. My tan Jeep Logo front mats come with holes for the hooks too. Thanks for the idea.

If your floor pan is bedlined, strip some of the bedline off and weld a nut to the floor pan. Cut a pan head screw really short and you can thread it into the nut to use a hook for your matts. Bedline everything when you're done.

Did this in my second JK. Worked perfect keeping the WeatherTec matts in place once the carpet was removed.. I am sure I have a picture someplace but you can visualize what I am describing I am sure.
 
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I'm liking this a lot. Not a cheap solution, but looks like it fits great. What's the stick across the rear bed for? Was the liner not sitting properly? And on the passenger side, where the liner meets the tailgate jamb.. Looks like the liner is pulled away and not tucked in behind anything.. that would piss me off.

How does Armorlite accommodate the rear seat mounts? I have a Tuffy rear security enclosure that uses the rear seat mounts to secure it...

If you chose to, could you still use a WeatherTech style mat in the front, which relies on the little hook built into the factory carpet to keep it positioned? I don't see any hooks on the Armorlite liner..

EDIT - Reviewed the installation instructions and see how to accommodate the rear seats...
I'm sorry Mike I just now saw this - been a busy couple months. To answer your questions:

The rear seat mounts have to be cut out. Which is good. They do have indents in the rubber which is where you want to cut. I like this though because for those of us with no rear seats, it means a nice flat layer that has no holes for water/dust/rocks to get into and get under the flooring

There is no little hook built into the armorlite. I suppose you 'could' use mats on top of it, but I dont see why you would want to. The rubber is thick, so even if it does wear through it's going to take years unless you melt or cut it. It also has a thick backing of felt which does a decent job at sound deadening and heat reduction, although not as good as a sound specific mat that sticks to the sheet metal.

Now that I have had this through the very mild winter here, and going into mud season, I 200% recommend armorlite. Cost is high, but well worth it in my opinion. Anybody who ever gets their feet dirty from snow, mud, water, whatever.... I see no reason to have actual carpet. The drains work very well also. Recommendation - install in the sun, and not in the winter. It will be much easier. I plan on getting armorlite for the LJ here in a few months.
Edit: I went back and looked. They have two different kits. One that is the tub only and one that is the tub and rear.

You can also opt to order just the rear floor potion standalone. Along with the wheel wells. When I ordered mine, I ordered the wrong one by mistake and had to make a second order for just the wheel wells. Of course I paid shipping twice, my mistake. But I had no problem getting them to respond via email and phone.
 
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I'm sorry Mike I just now saw this - been a busy couple months. To answer your questions:

The rear seat mounts have to be cut out. Which is good. They do have indents in the rubber which is where you want to cut. I like this though because for those of us with no rear seats, it means a nice flat layer that has no holes for water/dust/rocks to get into and get under the flooring

There is no little hook built into the armorlite. I suppose you 'could' use mats on top of it, but I dont see why you would want to. The rubber is thick, so even if it does wear through it's going to take years unless you melt or cut it. It also has a thick backing of felt which does a decent job at sound deadening and heat reduction, although not as good as a sound specific mat that sticks to the sheet metal.

Now that I have had this through the very mild winter here, and going into mud season, I 200% recommend armorlite. Cost is high, but well worth it in my opinion. Anybody who ever gets their feet dirty from snow, mud, water, whatever.... I see no reason to have actual carpet. The drains work very well also. Recommendation - install in the sun, and not in the winter. It will be much easier. I plan on getting armorlite for the LJ here in a few months.


You can also opt to order just the rear floor potion standalone. Along with the wheel wells. When I ordered mine, I ordered the wrong one by mistake and had to make a second order for just the wheel wells. Of course I paid shipping twice, my mistake. But I had no problem getting them to respond via email and phone.

Still have this on my summer to-do list. The only thing holding me back is the water leak I have in the passenger front that for the life of me I can't find. the source of. It's running down the firewall at times and down the right side of the passenger foot well in front of the door. For the firewall leak I have a piece of HD tyvek taped to the firewall and dropped over the front of the mat, which directs the water into the WeatherTech matts. So while that problem isn't solved, it's controlled. Same solution for the side. I'd have no problem replicating it with the Armorlite just can't have water going under the Armorlite.. I'd never be able to get it to dry.

I'm not sold on needing the Armorlite under the rear seat. I have Tuffy Security Enclosure in the back and wouldn't want to roll the dice on compatability.
 
Still have this on my summer to-do list. The only thing holding me back is the water leak I have in the passenger front that for the life of me I can't find. the source of. It's running down the firewall at times and down the right side of the passenger foot well in front of the door. For the firewall leak I have a piece of HD tyvek taped to the firewall and dropped over the front of the mat, which directs the water into the WeatherTech matts. So while that problem isn't solved, it's controlled. Same solution for the side. I'd have no problem replicating it with the Armorlite just can't have water going under the Armorlite.. I'd never be able to get it to dry.

I'm not sold on needing the Armorlite under the rear seat. I have Tuffy Security Enclosure in the back and wouldn't want to roll the dice on compatability.

Could it just be as simple as the windshield seal? Or have you checked that?

I have found old traces of water that was leaking through the grommet for the radio antenna, and down the inside of the right side foot well and under the carpet. There a very light rust trail, which is odd, but maybe give that a look? If I remember this weekend I'll try and get a pic for ya if it helps. But yeah water under the armorlite wouldn't be very good it is a royal PITA to get that stuff in place, I wouldn't want to have to remove it on any sort of regular basis to dry things out. Hope ya find that leak. As for the rear area. I went ahead and got it myself also not knowing the compatibility with the template rear storage I have but it seems to work out ok. The base plate does sit flush on the armorlite so there is no real air flow for any sort of water to dry out, so it's probably a moot point and a wash in all reality. But the wheel wells I would still consider in your case because it will cut down on road noise if nothing else.
 
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Could it just be as simple as the windshield seal? Or have you checked that?

I have found old traces of water that was leaking through the grommet for the radio antenna, and down the inside of the right side foot well and under the carpet. There a very light rust trail, which is odd, but maybe give that a look? If I remember this weekend I'll try and get a pic for ya if it helps. But yeah water under the armorlite wouldn't be very good it is a royal PITA to get that stuff in place, I wouldn't want to have to remove it on any sort of regular basis to dry things out. Hope ya find that leak. As for the rear area. I went ahead and got it myself also not knowing the compatibility with the template rear storage I have but it seems to work out ok. The base plate does sit flush on the armorlite so there is no real air flow for any sort of water to dry out, so it's probably a moot point and a wash in all reality. But the wheel wells I would still consider in your case because it will cut down on road noise if nothing else.

Can't say I have gone crazy trying to find it. The cowl drain is cleaned twice a year. The cabin air intake has been replaced and sealed more than once. I don't see water at the base of the windshield (which I am sure is original). The Tyvek is a redneck solution, but kudos to redneck tech.. any water that does get in is collected in the all-weather floor mat. Under carper has remained dry.

I hate the carpet. The thought of what's down in there gives me shivers. But it's complete and not horribly stained. BedRug is still an option but bias towards the Armorlite at this point.
 
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Still have this on my summer to-do list. The only thing holding me back is the water leak I have in the passenger front that for the life of me I can't find. the source of. It's running down the firewall at times and down the right side of the passenger foot well in front of the door. For the firewall leak I have a piece of HD tyvek taped to the firewall and dropped over the front of the mat, which directs the water into the WeatherTech matts. So while that problem isn't solved, it's controlled. Same solution for the side. I'd have no problem replicating it with the Armorlite just can't have water going under the Armorlite.. I'd never be able to get it to dry. I'm not sold on needing the Armorlite under the rear seat. I have Tuffy Security Enclosure in the back and wouldn't want to roll the dice on compatibility.

I have the same leak on the passenger side firewall. It is so annoying. I have tried the hose, a pressure washer and no leak detected. Yet when it rains, leak.
 
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If your floor pan is bedlined, strip some of the bedline off and weld a nut to the floor pan. Cut a pan head screw really short and you can thread it into the nut to use a hook for your matts. Bedline everything when you're done.

Did this in my second JK. Worked perfect keeping the WeatherTec matts in place once the carpet was removed.. I am sure I have a picture someplace but you can visualize what I am describing I am sure.

I've already said that I handled that part. But, I would never strip the bedliner off to weld bare metal. That allows rust and breaks the protective seal provided by the bedliner.
 
I have the same leak on the passenger side firewall. It is so annoying. I have tried the hose, a pressure washer and no leak detected. Yet when it rains, leak.

Not sure if you could follow what I described with regard to the HD Tyvek sheet but it effectively directs any water coming down the firewall into the all weather floor mat. Dries in a few hours and carpet has stayed dry.
 
i tossed the almost new looking carpet when i bought my jeep 4 years ago because i knew i would just ruin it. i went with the bedtread flooring and will say it’s decent at best. after seeing the armorlite flooring it will most likely replace the bedtread. a jeep and a truck are no place for carpet in my opinion. ordered my f-150 from the factory with plastic flooring. no regrets on that decision almost 9 years later.
 
Hey, I put the full BedRug kit in my TJ a few months ago and have been really happy with it. It fit fine, not "prefect" I suppose, but really well. There is also a heat shield layer that mine included to go over the tunnel that stuck to the bottom of the BedRug before installation. Maybe that's something they've added to newer kits? But it definitely blocks most of the heat on the tunnel.... by comparison with no carpet/BedRug, that area gets HOT. With BedRug it's much much cooler to the touch.

I haven't even installed the velcro strips yet and daily drive the Jeep. It's a very snug fit and has stayed in place perfectly.

It's definitely not going to be as plush as the thick ACC carpet, but it does everything I was wanting it to do.


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I love the look of the BedRug, especially over the cheap carpet kit that i chose when i refreshed the interior a few years ago. Which replacement seat belts did you go with? Did you also do the fronts, or just the rears?
 
I love the look of the BedRug, especially over the cheap carpet kit that i chose when i refreshed the interior a few years ago. Which replacement seat belts did you go with? Did you also do the fronts, or just the rears?

Man, apologies @WestCoastDan I somehow totally missed this question. I'm sure you've moved on, but if not and for others, I used this place:

https://www.seatbeltsplus.com

Have worked great on a daily driver so no complaints, and love the blue, easy to see if kiddo is wearing.

I only did the rears, because fronts are fine right now.

@MikekiM looks like he found a great option too! I might consider his for the front when needed.
 
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Man, apologies @WestCoastDan I somehow totally missed this question. I'm sure you've moved on, but if not and for others, I used this place:

https://www.seatbeltsplus.com

Have worked great on a daily driver so no complaints, and love the blue, easy to see if kiddo is wearing.

I only did the rears, because fronts are fine right now.

@MikekiM looks like he found a great option too! I might consider his for the front when needed.

I would use them again if needed.
 
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