Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ engine mounts

Extreme death wobble

You can have both. Bad tires and loose components...that is likely on older vehicles.

A tire only can cause it , but the loose components allow it . If you hit a bump and that's all that sets it off , it's likely loose components that allow the shake ....but if it happens consistently at speed , it's the tire ...but in many cases the tire is part of it , and the components are, and the amount each one contributes varies , like a sliding scale . But it can be just one thing . Even just a low tire.


....any time the shake or slop is such it overpowers the vehicles inherent tracking ability , you get death wobble.
Ya I think it’s a combination of both but mainly the uneven worn tire. It happens consistently without bumps at about70km/h. If I hit a bump at that speed It’s not a fun experience lol Tomorrow I’m going to get the spare tire balanced and just replace the screwed up tire. I’ll check the suspension while the tires are lifted too to see if there’s anything out of the ordinary. I had a lot of the front end suspension replaced less then a year ago though...
 
Ya I think it’s a combination of both but mainly the uneven worn tire. It happens consistently without bumps at about70km/h. If I hit a bump at that speed It’s not a fun experience lol Tomorrow I’m going to get the spare tire balanced and just replace the screwed up tire. I’ll check the suspension while the tires are lifted too to see if there’s anything out of the ordinary. I had a lot of the front end suspension replaced less then a year ago though...
Cool, be safe up there.
 
Which one of you awesome men suggested it being the track bar?!
 

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Track arm doesn’t need to be anything special right? I’m not going to buy the most expensive but this ones fine ya?

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Track arm doesn’t need to be anything special right? I’m not going to buy the most expensive but this ones fine ya?

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That will work as a replacement. The bushing quality would be my main concern.
I have no clue who Mevotech is, so I cannot comment on their quality.

I have no other comments, I do not want any geese thrown in my direction.
 
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Just remember the bushings in the one you have are replaceable ... And you can get better bushings or upgrade to a JK bushing with a larger Bolt if you need to.. I would not buy a new track bar unless I was really sure that my existing one was not going to hold bushings and needed to save the fuss of replacing bushings.

There are a lot of high strength components on the market and they've got their place but it's the connection at the end that does the work for the most part... Some people will put on a ZJ tie rod and swear it made things better but what fix their jeep was the new tie rod end that came with it.
 
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Just remember the bushings in the one you have are replaceable ... And you can get better bushings or upgrade to a JK bushing with a larger Bolt if you need to.. I would not buy a new track bar unless I was really sure that my existing one was not going to hold bushings and needed to save the fuss of replacing bushings.

There are a lot of how high strength components on the market and they've got their place but it's the connection at the end that does the work for the most part... Some people will put on a ZJ tie rod and swear it made things better but what fix their jeep was the new tie rod end that came with it.
Thanks Andy!!! I was just looking at the tie rod end ...so you can buy these bushings and just replace it on the arm? I’m going to do this then because there’s nothing wrong with the bar....both ends of the track bar though you wouldn’t believe the movement just grabbing it and pulling up and down/ in and out ...insane. No wonder
 
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Thanks Andy!!! I was just looking at the tie rod end ...so you can buy these bushings and just replace it on the arm? I’m going to do this then because there’s nothing wrong with the bar....both ends of the track bar though you wouldn’t believe the movement just grabbing it and pulling up and down/ in and out ...insane. No wonder
To give you a frame of reference... If you can move that thing by hand that is absolutely off the charts... It normally takes the resistance of a 3500 pound Jeep to see anything.

Knowing the age of the vehicle and thinking you guys may use salt on the roads and so forth, I would consider systemically replacing bushings under it if it has a tendency to feel shaky and so forth .. what happens if they get loose over time and you just get used to it.

A TJ really should be fairly tight and responsive.

The bushings are sold under steering and chassis parts at any parts chain.
 
I posted a video I’m not sure if it uploaded or not ? But I literally grab the bar and both ends move freely up and down in and out LOL
 
Which one of you awesome men suggested it being the track bar?!
Holy cow. I have never seen anything close to that loose... Give you an idea just a soft bushing moving 1/16 or 1/8 inch too much will give you death wobble... There is no question that if you fix that and put on better tires things going to be significantly better.
 
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Holy cow. I have never seen anything close to that loose... Give you an idea just a soft bushing moving 1/16 or 1/8 inch too much will give you death wobble... There is no question that if you fix that and put on better tires things going to be significantly better.
I know I’m excited to do it tomorrow :). I been driving my Jeep for the past year with such a wobbly steering wheel lol. I just got use to it I guess. such a easy fix to improve it.

Just need to fix my electrical problem with this fuel/oxygen issue ....😒
 
I know I’m excited to do it tomorrow :). I been driving my Jeep for the past year with such a wobbly steering wheel lol. I just got use to it I guess. such a easy fix to improve it.

Just need to fix my electrical problem with this fuel/oxygen issue ....😒
The bushings have to be driven out but they're not in too tight you can usually do it with a bench clamp

Yours are probably going to fall apart and the outer part is going to stay in the trap bar and have to be knocked out with a hammer and screwdriver.

Is your exhaust pretty loud or do you hear a ticking noise from the driver side when you crank it in the morning?
 
My exhaust isn’t loud no. I cut the rear cat off a couple month ago and replaced it with a straight pipe( it was loud then). Put the rear cat back- not loud anymore. The other week while driving something hit my floor and all of a sudden my exhaust was roaring — looked at the exhaust and one of the bolts I put in place of the 02sensors blew out lol

explain the ticking you’re talking about— where would it be coming from?
 
My exhaust isn’t loud no. I cut the rear cat off a couple month ago and replaced it with a straight pipe( it was loud then). Put the rear cat back- not loud anymore. The other week while driving something hit my floor and all of a sudden my exhaust was roaring — looked at the exhaust and one of the bolts I put in place of the 02sensors blew out lol

explain the ticking you’re talking about— where would it be coming from?
You have four bolts right they're coming off where the manifold meets the two catalytic converters... What typically happens is the fitting where's a little bit in the bolts corrode and lock and feel real tight but you're getting an exhaust leak that sucks in fresh air... By the Venturi principle... That confuses the oxygen sensors and they give the computer weird readings

I know you were looking into the wiring and all that a while back... And it's good to make sure one of the oxygen sensor wires is not touching the exhaust or anything... But I doubt it's anything sinister in the wiring, could be , but most likely it will end up being something tricking the computer , or a couple of things working together like an exhaust leak and a vacuum leak.
 
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