Rockjock spring question

Changing the ride height will not fix that rub without also addressing the shock's travel bias. Shocks determine the suspension travel. Or a smaller tire could be used.

Or identify what specificly the tire is rubbing at full shock compression and decide if it matters. If the tire is contacting the flexible fender flare, then don't worry about it. If the tire is mashing into sheet metal and tearing up the fender and tire, then there is something to consider addressing.

Yes i know it needs new shocks for sure, old RC springs and shocks.

I think its rubbing the flares as I don't see any fender damage.

I just know its time to put some higher quality springs and shocks on.
 
old RC springs and shocks.

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Yes i know it needs new shocks for sure, old RC springs and shocks.

I think its rubbing the flares as I don't see any fender damage.

I just know its time to put some higher quality springs and shocks on.

The springs are fine as long as they are creating the ride height you want. The shocks are what define the suspension travel and that is determined by the length of the shocks. You want about 50/50 travel from the normal ride height. If the shock is too short, it will allow excessive up travel from normal ride height and the tire might mash into things it shouldn't. This is the balancing act between tire size, lift height, shock sizing and body clearance that needs to be sorted out when piecing together a suspension.
 
I know I am ashamed to admit it too 😔😔

I had them on my old 05' Willys edition for 7-8 years with no issues. That Jeep only had 21,000 miles on it when I sold it though. I think the heavy bumpers and winch made the RC shocks ride pretty good. I used 1" spacers up front for the winch weight. 🤫
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It could be worse. Do you have any Rusty's Offroad parts on it? ;)
p.s. I never had any major issues with any RC stuff I ran in the past. The shocks worked much better with a heavy Jeep IMO. Could have been the ratio of the shock travel.

I don't know the front end sags now, looks like it definitely needs an underwire bra to hold it up.......

Edit: no rusteeezzz parts on my Rubicon sir!!!!
 
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The springs are fine as long as they are creating the ride height you want. The shocks are what define the suspension travel and that is determined by the length of the shocks. You want about 50/50 travel from the normal ride height. If the shock is too short, it will allow excessive up travel from normal ride height and the tire might mash into things it shouldn't. This is the balancing act between tire size, lift height, shock sizing and body clearance that needs to be sorted out when piecing together a suspension.

Thanks @jjvw Appreciate the input, like @mrblaine I value both of y'alls input.

I know for certain the front has sagged and will measure it today along with the rear.

The lift that's on this Rubicon is pre @AndyG ownership so we don't have a clue as the age.

Thanks again for the input.
 
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John you could weigh each end of your jeep if you want to give them a better idea what you have going on?

Heck no , not today, anyway :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: plus the Cat Scale want $$ to do it.

No rear bumper, no rear seat, just the spare tire.

Front bumper is a cut down stock, winch plate and a Warn HS9500i with a WRG synthetic line, and WRG ST fairlead.

Edit: the spare is a kenda klever MT 33 12.50 15 on a Quadratec aluminum wheel.
 
Ok just measured front and rear. Fronts are 14" right side(passenger) 14.5" left side. Rears are 14.5.

So yes the fronts have sagged over the years and with the weight of the winch.

~2" front lift and ~6.5" rear lift.

Something more is going on beyond the winch weight and possible sagging over the years.
 
~2" front lift and ~6.5" rear lift.

Something more is going on beyond the winch weight and possible sagging over the years.

Thanks sir, kinda what I was thinking since we have no idea the age of the lift.
 
Not knowing anything about what you have and assuming the provided measurements are close to accurate, the front is oddly low and the rear is oddly high.

That's what I thought when I measured so I measured 3 times and got the same measurements each time.

Honestly I know the shocks are RC, the springs probably are but have no identifying numbers on them at all.
 
Maybe,maybe not. I had RC coils that sagged lower than stock on my tj when I bought it.

Something more going on begins with the reported 4.5" disparity in ride height between the front and rear. One or more things is contributing to that weirdness and warrants a bit of investigation.