2004 LJ In Flux

[The4bangertj]

I was asked about stainless I while back and did not have the capacity to determine if the rash guards could be counter sink with out eating bits and becoming a nightmare. I had a customer that was willing to pay and wait for me to try and it worked out. My TJ rock slider kits would increase by $100 (LJ would be similar) to upgrade the rash guard to stainless. Seems like a no brainer but I’m curious to what you gents may think.

The brake press tonage was almost double to bend it. Crazy.

Pic of the stainless LJ rash guard.

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I’m no expert on materials and where they’re better used and havnt seen any discussion on stainless so excuse me if this is been said before.
What are the benefits of stainless? Would this be resistant enough to not need paint at all or just better resistance than normal carbon steel? I get rock chips on the bottom side of the sliders that end up starting the rust and having to not worry about re painting them would be worth the cost alone.
Any strength difference? I’ve always assumed stainless was softer than normal carbon steel but I know most of that idea comes from bolts which is unfair since the non stainless is heat treated.

 

[sab]

I’m no expert on materials and where they’re better used and havnt seen any discussion on stainless so excuse me if this is been said before.
What are the benefits of stainless? Would this be resistant enough to not need paint at all or just better resistance than normal carbon steel?

I think the main advantage is corrosion resistance. Depending on the alloy used, it could be significantly resistant.

Any strength difference? I’ve always assumed stainless was softer than normal carbon steel but I know most of that idea comes from bolts which is unfair since the non stainless is heat treated.

It's absolutely stronger. That's why it took twice the tonnage on the press brake to bend it. In fact, it's probably twice the yield strength because that goes hand-in-hand with press tonnage. Again, the strength depends on the alloy used, and comparing to bolt strengths isn't applicable. The rash guards are carbon steel, which isn't even close to what bolts are made from.

 

[Fluxor]

It is 304 7 Gauge vs P.O mild steel.

My customer said go with it so I will making a run of TJ rocker kits with 304 stainless rash guards.

 

[The4bangertj]

Would stainless bumper corners be an option later too?

 

[Fluxor]

Would stainless bumper corners be an option later too?

Yes it would look that way. I don't see why not.

 

[IPerkWVU]

I’m definitely not the metal expert but I thought stainless steel and aluminum didn’t play nice and could cause corrosion. I could be wrong though

 

[jjvw]

I’m definitely not the metal expert but I thought stainless steel and aluminum didn’t play nice and could cause corrosion. I could be wrong though

How many thousands of stainless bolts are holding Savvy and GenRight unpainted aluminum corners onto steel bodies?

 

[Fluxor]

I’m definitely not the metal expert but I thought stainless steel and aluminum didn’t play nice and could cause corrosion. I could be wrong though

This becomes more of an issue when power is grounded thru a panel combined with salt and lack of maintenance. There are tons of places on fire trucks, semi trailers etc where aluminum is in contact with stainless with out issue.

@jjvw How many thousands of stainless bolts are holding Savvy and GenRight unpainted aluminum corners onto steel bodies?

 

[RockyTopTJ]

@Fluxor how much to send you the mild rash guard back and get the stainless?

Money seems to be going out faster than coming in

 

[Fluxor]

@Fluxor how much to send you the mild rash guard back and get the stainless?

Money seems to be going out faster than coming in

I have not done the bumper rash guards in stainless yet, not sure when that will happen. When I do i will post the cost of just the rash guards for those that have the steel version and want to upgrade. I would rock what you have and after or if you trash them upgrade to the stainless then.

 

[RockyTopTJ]

I have not done the bumper rash guards in stainless yet, not sure when that will happen. When I do i will post the cost of just the rash guards for those that have the steel version and want to upgrade. I would rock what you have and after or if you trash them upgrade to the stainless then.

I haven't installed the rocker rash guards yet is why I was asking. I do think I'll just rock the mild steel though until I trash them.

 

[Fluxor]

Thought you guys would find this interesting. I may need to fast track my mini boat side version just to prevent the destruction of the nations tubs!

This is why they get cut off.

 

[MeanGreen86]

well now I think I should sell mine...though I don't wheel hard.

 

[NDSpeed]

Thought you guys would find this interesting. I may need to fast track my mini boat side version just to prevent the destruction of the nations tubs!

This is why they get cut off.

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whose product is that?

 

[JMT]

whose product is that?

Looks like Genright’s standard rocker guards

 

[Woodrow]

Looks like Genright’s standard rocker guards

aluminum, maybe?

 

[JMT]

aluminum, maybe?

They make a steel version and an aluminum version of the mini boat sides.

 

[rasband]

aluminum, maybe?

Genright Aluminum is correct, I scrapped my entire rocker to go custom rather than cut off those steps. They're too low on the rocker and I was getting caught up on them more often than I should have. I haven't really been happy with anything from GR I have bought, ever. I had the steel ones, but the design issues are the same from what I am aware of.

https://genright.com/products/aluminum-mini-boat-side-rocker-guards-w-bars-lj-tj-yj-cj.html

 

[Apparition]

Genright Aluminum is correct, I scrapped my entire rocker to go custom rather than cut off those steps. They're too low on the rocker and I was getting caught up on them more often than I should have. I haven't really been happy with anything from GR I have bought, ever. I had the steel ones, but the design issues are the same from what I am aware of.

https://genright.com/products/aluminum-mini-boat-side-rocker-guards-w-bars-lj-tj-yj-cj.html

Here's the best part about the aluminum ones

Perfect for the Sand or Snow wheeler's who want some protection for their off road Jeep Wrangler, but are not hitting trail obstacles hard.

 

[sab]

Here's the best part about the aluminum ones

Is the best part the fact that they keep their prices low by paying copy writers who don't understand the difference between a plural noun and a possessive noun?