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Hey all,

Hoping to get some feedback on my winch controls. When I got the jeep, it didn’t come with a controller or clutch tool. I’ve found a clutch tool that seems to work, now I am rebuilding the controller. I’ve so far been able to move the winch forward and back ward, by connecting to two different wires to what is probably the common power. I guess these two wires are different grounds, reversing the polarity of the voltage driving the motor.

This seems good enough, but there’s two hanging wires, one white, connected to the PCB, and one red. It seems I don’t need these wires? But, maybe they allow some variable speed. What do these extra wires do? And, am I fucking anything up with the 3 wires I’m using now, with bypassing the other two?

PS. No, I don’t usually wear sandals while working on my jeep, unless I’m playing with wires.

Thanks!
 
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Winch Vid

Hey all,

Hoping to get some feedback on my winch controls. When I got the jeep, it didn’t come with a controller or clutch tool. I’ve found a clutch tool that seems to work, now I am rebuilding the controller. I’ve so far been able to move the winch forward and back ward, by connecting to two different wires to what is probably the common power. I guess these two wires are different grounds, reversing the polarity of the voltage driving the motor.

This seems good enough, but there’s two hanging wires, one white, connected to the PCB, and one red. It seems I don’t need these wires? But, maybe they allow some variable speed. What do these extra wires do? And, am I fucking anything up with the 3 wires I’m using now, with bypassing the other two?

PS. No, I don’t usually wear sandals while working on my jeep, unless I’m playing with wires.

Thanks!

Couldn't tell in the video, what winch do you have??
 
I can't really see anything in the video but to try and answer your question.

You should have a solenoid pack which would have the large gauge wires going to the motor. Then it would have the smaller gauge wires, you are currently working with the smaller gauge wires. These smaller gauge wires are connected to a relay(s) within the solenoid pack. For the relay to operate it would need to be grounded and would need power. Since yours is working, I am assuming it is grounded and powered. You would then need a power wire which goes to the switch (controller) and two wires that go from the switch (controller) to the Relay, these two wires are the direction control. Those are the three wires that you are using in the video to control the winch. So if the relay is grounded and powered, you only need those three wires to operate the winch. You can run those wires into your cab and install a single pole dual throw switch and it would operate fine. Some winch controllers have 5 or 6 wires (5 wire being the most common) and the extra wires are a safety to basically power and ground the relay when the switch is activated. I would assume that this is what your two extra wires are for; however, they have been "jumped" on the solenoid pack itself. If you can find the "jump" wire(s) you can disconnect them and wire them to your in cab switch (you would need a dual pole dual throw switch) this ensures you don't have a hot relay all the time and increases safety but is not necessary for operation. You can use an amazon controller like listed above as your "switch" and just wire it accordingly or you can just run wires from the solenoid pack to the cab and use switches in the cab.

You state you have a PCB (printed circuit board), but I have never seen a winch with a PCB, everyone I have ever worked on myself used solenoids or contactors. So everything I said above could not apply to your winch. Please proceed accordingly.
 
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