Welding Axle Trusses

[mrblaine]

So you agree then, they do look pretty cool. haha

I've never thought trestles looked cool unless they are holding up train tracks.

At the end of the day, I used trusses to facilitate mounting two axles under a jeep they weren't originally designed for.

That is not what a fabricator does, ever.

They solved the immediate problem that I had and didn't cause any other issues. It's really that simple!

Immediate problem being low skilled as a fabricator?

I never intended them to solve any other underlying issues. Technically they are designed to hold the axle on my jeep. Weather you accept it or not, they function really well for that purpose.

What does his local atmospheric conditions have to do with this?

This has been entertaining. I addressed every point of every post you made. When met with a logical line of thought and reason, you only resort to half witted dismissive remarks. Then after that oral trash is just another self inflating statement. None of which offers any logic or reason to the conversation.

I didn't see where you explained how throwing lots of metal at something fixes the unfixable problem. Did I miss that while you were in the shower?

 

[jjvw]

So you agree then, they do look pretty cool. haha

At the end of the day, I used trusses to facilitate mounting two axles under a jeep they weren't originally designed for. They solved the immediate problem that I had and didn't cause any other issues. It's really that simple!

I never intended them to solve any other underlying issues. Technically they are designed to hold the axle on my jeep. Weather you accept it or not, they function really well for that purpose.

This has been entertaining. I addressed every point of every post you made. When met with a logical line of thought and reason, you only resort to half witted dismissive remarks. Then after that oral trash is just another self inflating statement. None of which offers any logic or reason to the conversation.

I do not agree with a lot of your methods of problem solving. I see them as misguided, shortsighted and a bit lazy. Your inability to recognize that on any level is not surprising given your general conduct, confused thought process, and willful ignorance.

You really ought to be holding yourself to a higher standard.

 

[hosejockey61]

This has been entertaining. I addressed every point of every post you made. When met with a logical line of thought and reason, you only resort to half witted dismissive remarks. Then after that oral trash is just another self inflating statement. None of which offers any logic or reason to the conversation.

The only thing you didn't do was actually TRY to understand what he was saying. If you did, you'd be seeing this in a different light.

 

[ottoa]

The only thing you didn't do was actually TRY to understand what he was saying. If you did, you'd be seeing this in a different light.

New here, can already taste the tension. Are threads always this spicy? And this is all pretty relevant to me, because I'm new to this situation and also plan on regearing after I get my front truss and rear shock mount situation figured out (worthy of a separate discussion).

As far as tips for welding a truss, I recently stuck an Artec on my TJ Rubicon Dana 44 front, for no good reason other than I wanted to try it out (seems to slot right in line with why you should or should not!). Overall, it went well. Sometimes we do things just because we can, not because it's rational. I agree with the others in this thread that the stock Dana 44 is just fine, as-as, for 35s, front or rear. Anything larger and you need a different axle or plan to never wheel it, no number of upgrades will save you, you just move the failure point around. To me, I prefer to bust outer axle u-joints all day than anything else in the front driveline. Easy swap on the trail.

A MAP gas torch and an IR thermometer make the process go relatively smoothly for welding on the axle (read: any cast section). I had some tacks crack without proper pre-heating on the diff housing. The sheet metal parts will cool off much faster than the cast housing or inner C's, so just work an inch or so at a time and keep that blow torch at the ready to prevent the sheet and cast parts from being any more than ~50 deg F apart. I preheated the thick cast steel parts to ~300 F before welding with a MIG welder (C25 gas). After welding, I took my time with the gas torch and IR thermometer to keep things cooling at a similar rate. I pulled the diff carrier (in the font) for this work and kept the stock cover bolted on for the duration.

I haven't shoved the carrier back in the housing to know if I severely distorted anything but considering the large number of people doing similar work, I am not all that worried. Did the axle need it? Def not, it's probably stronger and straighter without it (the truss). Why did I do it? Not sure, probably the same reason why I drink beers while working on the Jeep. I can almost guarantee that it's stiffer with the truss, which maybe for some very edge cases prevents damage to the internals of the axle.

 

[Astala3]

The problem with being done with any premise that doesn't align with your myopic view of how things should be done and referring to it as nonsense is that closes off any ability to learn.

Your flaw in your haste to come across as an expert fabricator and weldor is your narrow focus misses all the things that matter far more.


If you can't solve that problem to keep the axle viable under use, not much else matters. You're solving the wrong "problems". The worst part of your problem solving is what took you 60 pounds of metal to do, I can do with a third of that.

blaine, you might be more lost than the first guy. Maybe that's your homie and he called you needing another blind man in his corner. IDK

You two are clearly not understanding what I wrote. You're just like your home boy, self inflated ego and unwilling to hear anything contrary to what you have come to take as the only opinion anyone is permitted to have regarding truss kits.

I might as well be talking to the wall at this point. You guys are so sure you're right about an argument of the axles weak point that you cant understand this was never about that. That's the funny part. I never said anything about solving the weak point. beyond that, I've never made any rebuttal against anyone's comments concerning weak points. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING REGARDING THE AXLE'S WEAK POINTS.

Then you offer your own truss or not truss anecdote that has absolutely nothing to do with anything previously discussed. But first you gotta get that little dig in talking about what I will or wont do. Very immature. Your entire brake conquest is totally off the mark. You attempted to enhance the brakes and make factory brakes operate like high performance components. You likely made that mistake because you just think you are so smart. Myself however did not do that. I was never trying to enhance anything. I only used the trusses to modify the design. Two very different situations.

Your next allegation of trying to prop myself up as an expert is foolish in its own right. I even made a comment to the opposite, asking not to be taken as arrogant. My "narrow focus" as you allege did not miss any mark whatsoever. Again, the focus was using trusses to mount 2 YJ axles to my TJ, nothing more and nothing less. My focus was so on point that I nailed that mark. Yesterday my TJ drove those cool ass trussed axles all over miles of off-road trails.

The last statement quoted above is just dumb. The axles I trussed were entirely NOT viable for use, unmountable. Making them capable of mounting to the TJ was the only problem. not the wrong problem as you foolishly stated but the only problem I had. It's comical! Then, much like your home boy, you give some lame attack. Again, foolishly assuming things. You have no clue of what I am capable of yet you try to assert that you are more capable than myself. That's like middle school logic right there.

Who are the ones who are really trying to present themselves as better than another? hmm....