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Tire pressure

By coincidence I was just checking the air pressure on my 2000 Sport with 31X10.5/15's and they read about 27 psi. No complaints about the ride I'm getting so they'll stay that way.
 
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37 PSI worked because the F150 (even in the 80s) is a heavier vehicle and you were riding around on probably LT metric tires if I had to guess. Even if they were flotation (inch sizes), 37 isn't too crazy because of the weight of that truck. You wouldn't want to do that on a Jeep just because the door sticker says 35.

There are 4 classes of tire size and they all have different load capacities at different pressures. If your approach with the Jeep is to run 37 psi simply because the door sticker says 35, that may work on some tires and that may go over quite poorly on others. You will probably not like that pressure on most of the LT flotation tires.

I run 37 psi in my tires, but that is because they are an LT215/75R15 and that is what maintains the correct load based on the stock 30" tire pressure recommendation from Jeep. If I had 35x12.5, I'd be down around 20-22, if I had 33's, 22-24, 31's, 25, 30's, 29.

It really just comes down to the size/load of the tire and what vehicle they're carrying. Some Jeeps will say 35 on the sticker, some 29, because they came with different tires. If you had a Jeep with the 30" stock tire package, then you'd be riding around at 31 psi on every tire because the door sticker said 29....when really different sizes should be adjusted accordingly based on what they can carry.

Also, I think this was addressed later but under inflation would wear the the outside edges of the tire, not the centers. Over inflation would wear the centers, but it takes a lot of over inflation to get to that point. Handling, braking, and ride quality all go out the window long before over inflation kills the tire.

I have been unable to explain why underinflation can cause wear in the middle of the tire., but it does. At a slight level of under inflation in a steel belted radial tire, there is not enough pressure to hold the center of the tire patch against the pavement. It develops a dimple underneath the center of the tire patch. As the tire rolls with this dimple, the front and rear edges of the dimple SCRUB against the pavement, wearing rubber from the center section of the tire.

Given the factory tire size, you can over inflate more than you can underinflate without experiencing abnormal tire wear although we all know the downsides to overinflation, rough ride and poor tire performance. When you underinflate on pavement, the center wear I try to describe can sometimes happen by being only a few pounds underinflate. Off pavement, the “dimple” causes no wear problem.

The ‘78 4x4 I spoke of, I deflated significantly thinking it would result in uniform wear. I don’t remember the pressures I deflated to, but the underinflation most definitely caused the dramatic center treadwear.

BTW, yes over inflation can ALSO cause center wear. I have never seen a radial tire wear on the outside edges due to underinflation. In fact I don’t ever remember seeing a radial worn on bot outside edges under any conditions. Not saying it can’t happen, but saying I’ve never seen it. In the bias ply days I saw worn outside edges and could safely claim that they were the result of underinflation.
 
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By coincidence I was just checking the air pressure on my 2000 Sport with 31X10.5/15's and they read about 27 psi. No complaints about the ride I'm getting so they'll stay that way.

It would be a worthwhile experiment to get a tread depth gauge and keep records of tread depth across the tire width as time goes by.
 
It would be a worthwhile experiment to get a tread depth gauge and keep records of tread depth across the tire width as time goes by.
So many of us have done that over the years on the forum that we have our TJ’s dialed in. It’s pretty standard and no one has come back reporting uneven tread depths that I’m aware of running these pressures.

31’s - 27-28psi
33’s - 26psi
35’s - 24-25psi
 
Not a bad idea. It would go along with the chalk test to keep an eye on things.

The chalk test isn't accurate and is messy. :unsure:


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“Higher pressure had tread contact in the center and not the outer edges.”

Correct! At the right pressure, tread contact is a good thing. When the pressure is TOO low, the center develops a bubble, if you will, underneath where it is not touching the ground in the center of that bubble. While rolling at this too low pressure, the tread is scrubbing the pavement at the leading and trailing edge of that bubble resulting in tire wear in that area.

The concept I attempt to describe above is real. Where the mystery, guesswork, theories, arguments come from is what pressure eliminates that wear process. That is the key and I’ve never found a magic formula to arrive at that answer. Different tires give different results when changing pressure.

That sweet spot tire pressure that achieves optimum tire wear is not a very wide range. Sometimes it only takes an increase of one or two pounds to eliminate the wear.

Max tire pressure is a whole different issue, and has changed drastically in recent years. With a heavily loaded trailer, pay attention to max tire pressure to prevent catastrophic damage.

The only tires I have seen the low pressure, high pressure wear like you are describing are the wide base super single tires like big trucks run.

Michelin super singles with the way they are manufactured, if they are over pressure they will wear the outside edges and under pressure they will wear the center and that's by design.

McKee bakery did a study and found for their application 105psi was the sweet spot for optimal tire wear and performance. That psi has since been adopted by the industry as the perfect psi.

I have never seen passenger car or light truck tires do that.
 
Not yet, got to wear these out first.

I get it! I’m a cheap stuff guy that will wear tires to the wear bars and beyond. The fact that tires have gotten exTREMEly expen$ive of late doesn’t rush my tire purchase any.

That said the lug tires on the Jeep aren’t much good for the purpose when they’re near slick.
 
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The only tires I have seen the low pressure, high pressure wear like you are describing are the wide base super single tires like big trucks run.

Michelin super singles with the way they are manufactured, if they are over pressure they will wear the outside edges and under pressure they will wear the center and that's by design.

McKee bakery did a study and found for their application 105psi was the sweet spot for optimal tire wear and performance. That psi has since been adopted by the industry as the perfect psi.

I have never seen passenger car or light truck tires do that.

Yeah, big rig tires are a completely different kettle of fish.
 
Yeah, big rig tires are a completely different kettle of fish.

Not really, the regular tires, 275/80/22.5 (low pro 22.5 up to the 11R24.5) all will show the same wear patterns as light truck, car and SUV tires.

Only the wide base tires show a different wear pattern.
 
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