This is what I really do

AndyG

Because some other guys are perverts
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As a contractor, my value is to see that my clients get the very best job....as I do that I also insure my body of warranty work is less, referrals are high and we retain profits.

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My plumber deleted galvanized at this sink rough- the black fitting is a Fernco designed to marry pipes- It is typically used when there are slight dimensional changes which indicated to me he had left the galvanized at a turn where it would be likely to create clogs and be impossible to service after sheet rock and cabinetry are in place.

The plumbers’ response to me was when I pointed this out was not to undermine his work after 15 years of working together.

My response was essentially “it’s my company and I’m paying the bill and we’re going to do things the way that I say they need to be done. When it gets down to something I’m going to be responsible for down the road I have a voice that will be heard.”

We have 15 people working all the time out in the field and if 5 people do this once a week that is 200 instances per year- in five years that is 1000 extremely difficult to remediate problems.

At that point your reputation surfers and your work slows down and you don’t even have the income you need to survive what you created.

You don’t get what you expect- You get what you tolerate. Choose wisely because with every decision you’re creating your own future.

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As a contractor, my value is to see that my clients get the very best job....as I do that I also insure my body of warranty work is less, referrals are high and we retain profits.

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My plumber deleted galvanized at this sink rough- the black fitting is a Fernco designed to marry pipes- It is typically used when there are slight dimensional changes which indicated to me he had left the galvanized at a turn where it would be likely to create clogs and be impossible to service after sheet rock and cabinetry are in place.

The plumbers’ response to me was when I pointed this out was not to undermine his work after 15 years of working together.

My response was essentially “it’s my company and I’m paying the bill and we’re going to do things the way that I say they need to be done. When it gets down to something I’m going to be responsible for down the road I have a voice that will be heard.”

We have 15 people working all the time out in the field and if 5 people do this once a week that is 200 instances per year- in five years that is 1000 extremely difficult to remediate problems.

At that point your reputation surfers and your work slows down and you don’t even have the income you need to survive what you created.

You don’t get what you expect- You get what you tolerate. Choose wisely because with every decision you’re creating your own future.

Always wise to inspect what you expect....
 
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Very few contractors would have even cared about this even though their name is on the truck door. Even fewer employees would have blinked at this because their name is not on the truck door.

The fact that your hired help is performing in this manner and trying to to skate on the issue would have me test driving other plumbers.
 
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Very few contractors would have even cared about this even though their name is on the truck door. Even fewer employees would have blinked at this because their name is not on the truck door.

The fact that your hired help is performing in this manner and trying to to skate on the issue would have me test driving other plumbers.

Exactly- he has been slipping for a while. Aging out really.

A lot of these guys do not leave healthy lifestyles and in their mid to late 50’s they are falling apart.
 
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It’s all that glue they’re sniffing. Back in the day it was inhaling the lead from the cast iron sewer pipe joints that eventually caught up to them.
 
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Exactly- he has been slipping for a while. Aging out really.

A lot of these guys do not leave healthy lifestyles and in their mid to late 50’s they are falling apart.

So who fixed it? The plumber in question or someone else?
 
The plumbers’ response

I know a guy (carpenter) who said something to a plumber about his work on a job site once and got a different response, the plumber hit him in the back of the head with a PVC pipe he was holding. :LOL: Said he instantly dropped to his knees seeing stars, but a few seconds later he got his bearings and his hand just happened to land on a scrap 2x4 which he promptly racked across the plumbers shins and sent him hollering to the ground. :ROFLMAO:
 
So who fixed it? The plumber in question or someone else?

The plumber who did the work- In Alabama everyone has the right of repair that first did the work before you can get someone else and charge of them back-

Typically that teachers someone to listen and you’re good to go from then on with that kind of issue.

Every now and then it will cause a customer to lose confidence in the person doing the work and they don’t even want him to come back and that is a horrible situation....At least it is with me because then I can’t help my people to learn.

For some reason accountability is really going out of style but I’m trying to hang on to any that I can.
 
I know a guy (carpenter) who said something to a plumber about his work on a job site once and got a different response, the plumber hit him in the back of the head with a PVC pipe he was holding. :LOL: Said he instantly dropped to his knees seeing stars, but a few seconds later he got his bearings and his hand just happened to land on a scrap 2x4 which he promptly racked across the plumbers shins and sent him hollering to the ground. :ROFLMAO:

Never bring a knife to a gun fight.

The Carpenter would not have survived that during the old cast iron days-

For the life of me I can’t imagine how they were able to do the drain plumbing on two-story houses without people getting seriously hurt years ago using hot lead and cast iron.