A soft shackle is perfect for that. No need for a steel shackle.
Split D-Ring Shackles, Opinions?
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A soft shackle is perfect for that. No need for a steel shackle.
I did that with my ATV and the sun degraded the soft shackle really quickly so I stuck with the metal shackle on the front of the Jeep.
Saw them used on cascade rescue on YouTube. They looked really interesting. Hadn’t thought about the side load from a side pull though. I guess if your in the business of rescuing folks a straight pull with these would save you some time.
Why are you storing soft shackles outside the vehicle? Put them in the recovery bag.
Either way, your soft shackles should survive just as well as our synthetic winch ropes do out in the sun.
Why are you storing soft shackles outside the vehicle? Put them in the recovery bag.
Either way, your soft shackles should survive just as well as our synthetic winch ropes do out in the sun.
I think something got lost in translation along the way. He has a hook at the end of his winch line. While in transit, he has the hook attached to a metal shackle that lives on one of his d-rings. If he used a soft shackle rather than steel for this, the sun would eat the soft shackle.
FWIW I am also not a fan of steel shackles being full time on the bumper just because of the extra rattling. But for his use case, there would be no rattle since the hook would keep the shackle under tension.
Maybe so. And if so, then we have very different philosophies on building a winch and recovery system.
The hook is free. Most alternatives are more better and more expensive.
Interesting. Any issues with it banging around on the highway? I've got a safety thimble with the matching fairlead so no personal experience with a hook setup. The guys I wheel with have hooks and they store them attached to shackles on their d-rings.
Never bugged me, but maybe it did make noise, but it worked and was simple and free
Exactly. Been that way for years between the Xterra and now the Jeep. I do need a cover for the winch on the Jeep. On the Xterra is was down inside the bumper and not exposed.
I don't know that any alternatives are better. Lighter? Yeah. More colorful? Yeah.
But I've never failed at a recovery with the factory Warn hook. Why spend $100+ to not gain performance. That's my experience. I know guys with the fancy hooks and I haven't seen them do anything I haven't with them.
Works great. When I’m on the trail my d rings are installed and tightened slightly and I don’t want to remove them.
I don’t want to remove them.
Safest way.
So...it's not the Safest way, it's the Easiest way.
So...it's not the Safest way, it's the Easiest way.
Well, not knowing what his or my d rings is attached to would inhibit this answer. A typical aftermarket bumper has a welded eye for the d ring. If one does not make sure that is smooth then the rope in there can be “unsafe”?
Whatever. Listen, learn, give opinions, move on.
Without pictures, translation problems are prevalent in the recovery world because there are different terms for many of the components, many of which describe other components used in other worlds. For instance, in the lifting world, this is called an "anchor shackle" (more specifically, a "screw pin anchor shackle":
In the cargo transport world, this is called a "d-ring":
But, in the recovery world, the two terms combine to call this a "d-ring shackle" (most of the time that I've seen):
And now you've used d-ring in a new way (to me) - to describe this:
I'm so confused!
Maybe we need a "Jeeper's Glossary" in the resources section...
Without pictures, translation problems are prevalent in the recovery world because there are different terms for many of the components, many of which describe other components used in other worlds. For instance, in the lifting world, this is called an "anchor shackle" (more specifically, a "screw pin anchor shackle":
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In the cargo transport world, this is called a "d-ring":
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But, in the recovery world, the two terms combine to call this a "d-ring shackle" (most of the time that I've seen):
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And now you've used d-ring in a new way (to me) - to describe this:
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I'm so confused!
Maybe we need a "Jeeper's Glossary" in the resources section...
There is also a very wide disparity of sensibilities with regard to how this stuff works, and what a safe setup can and ought to look like given the options we have available.
What do you call the removable recovery and lifting points at the 4 corners of a Humvee?Without pictures, translation problems are prevalent in the recovery world because there are different terms for many of the components, many of which describe other components used in other worlds. For instance, in the lifting world, this is called an "anchor shackle" (more specifically, a "screw pin anchor shackle":
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In the cargo transport world, this is called a "d-ring":
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But, in the recovery world, the two terms combine to call this a "d-ring shackle" (most of the time that I've seen):
View attachment 602603
And now you've used d-ring in a new way (to me) - to describe this:
View attachment 602606
I'm so confused!
Maybe we need a "Jeeper's Glossary" in the resources section...
While I do recognize the accuracy of anchor shackle, I see them called bow shackles by a lot of the higher quality companies.
I just wish Warn would not have completely fucked up their shackle sizing to forever confuse the folks who own winches.
I don't know - I've never seen them. However, my neighbor is a retired Army lifer who was a fleet manager. I bet he could tell me what Uncle Sam called them...
As have I. In fact, Crosby bought Gunnebo a few years back, so now, you can see both terms used on the same web site (Crosby). Crosby calls them anchor shackles and Gunnebo calls them bow shackles. Come to think of it, "anchor shackles" could be a maritime term. Like I said - it's confusing...
Personally, I'd call that a d-ring. Every race transporter I've been in has the one I posted earlier in it (or a recessed version), and we called them d-rings. That looks very similar. I sent the pic to my neighbor. His response, "Those are shackles, stupid neighbor."
Again - I'm so confused!Similar threads
