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Opinions on trailer for TJ, please

TJMexico

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I recently posted about a cargo rack and the idea of a trailer was floated. I found a fabricator here in Mexico that makes custom trailers. They can make me one like this pictured below, but they would put a different axle on it so that it would fit larger tires, about the size of what I have on my Jeep, to keep the clearance.

The specs are as follows:
  • dimensions: 1.22 x 2.1 mts or 4' x 6.9'
  • dry weight: 250kg, or just about 550 lbs.
  • cargo weight: 1500kg rated, or over 3000 lbs.
  • equipped with 700 15 tires for heavy use
It would have a low tailgate instead of that big ramp. They'll put a drop axle on it to give me more clearance and beef up the springs to make it tougher and support the larger tires.

My main concern is the weight. I would never load it to its 3000 lb. limit, but starting at over 500 lbs empty, I am wondering how much cargo the 6 cyl motor and automatic tranny could handle. I gather that the towing limit for my configuration (4.0l 6cyl with 42RLE transmission) is about 2,000 lbs. Over 1,000 lbs gear plus the trailer would not reach that, but then I'm going up some pretty steep mountain roads at times.

Angle of departure is also a consideration. The basket on the trailer hitch lightly dragged in a couple of spots on the road crossing washouts, so that might be an issue with this one, as well. Angle of departure won't be anything near what the Jeep has. I know you cannot judge that without travelling the roads, though.

Maybe they could make it a bit shorter. Even shorten the tongue if that would be better for off-road driving.

Having the ability to carry in more supplies and gear, even dry goods to sell back in the villages would be great, but I don't want to spend $2,000 on a trailer then find that I can' use it.

The idea that once empty I could set up a tent on it might be a good point. My old lady would not mind being off the ground. She's weird like that.

Here's what it looks like, more-or-less. Tell me what you fellows with experience think. Might I be better off settling for a roof-top cargo rack, or could this work?
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For reference, here's my 4x6 at 250 lbs empty, 2,000 lb GVWR:

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I don't claim this is suitable for your situation in the slightest - I don't think it could take the pounding and it has 12 inch wheels on it. At the very least, I'd lose the thick wood planks on the bed and either use plywood or even expanded metal for the bottom to keep the weight down. Note the lunette ring - I don't really need it, but I think you do!

I had to move the axle to the bottom of the springs, it was too low even for street use before. BTW, never "flip" an axle, get new spring perches welded onto it and "lower" it.
 
For reference, here's my 4x6 at 250 lbs empty, 2,000 lb GVWR:
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I don't claim this is suitable for your situation in the slightest - I don't think it could take the pounding and it has 12 inch wheels on it. At the very least, I'd lose the thick wood planks on the bed and either use plywood or even expanded metal for the bottom to keep the weight down. Note the lunette ring - I don't really need it, but I think you do!

I had to move the axle to the bottom of the springs, it was too low even for street use before. BTW, never "flip" an axle, get new spring perches welded onto it and "lower" it.
Thanks! Helpful.

I like the idea of replacing the bottom with expanded metal or plywood. I'll ask the fabricator about that, or maybe I could just put the plywood in when I get it and use the boards for something else. Good wood is hard to find here.

He see seemed recalcitrant about the lunette ring, felt that the ball hitch would do fine, but if I push it I imagine can get him in line. Money talks.

These trailers are made for stuff like carrying ATVs and gear to camps and such, so I think they are built with rugged use in mind.

My main concern continues to be the towing weight, particularly given that I do some pretty hairy climbs. I feel like in 4low she can do pretty much anything, but need to be certain.
 
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I think something closer to what @Zorba has would fit your needs better. The trailer you posted is more heavy duty, but like you said it weighs more, and you will notice more weight towing with a TJ. I have a cheapy 5x8 trailer with 13" rims I bought from Tractor Supply just to haul my mower around. Pulled it several times loaded with the TJ, probably close to the max towing capacity (2000lbs). Even that trailer doesn't weigh 500 lbs empty, I think it is in the 350-400 range.

My grandfather has a 6.5x8 trailer that was fabricated specifically for his 61" Scag Zero turn, because it is custom built, his trailer probably weighs twice empty what mine does.
 
I had to do something...

Here's the 8 page, boring as hell blow-by-blow of the entire story if you have the time or inclination...

It was pretty craptacular when I got it.

http://www.doubleveil.net/jeep/trailer1.htm

"Similar to the M-8000 winch, everything the seller did to it thinking it was an improvement will have to be undone."

Yeah, I just had to deal with that with the wiring in the doors to the electric windows. Idiot had twisted and taped several pieces of wire of different gauges together instead of running down to the hardware store to just buy a couple of lengths of 16ga wire. Frustrating how stupid some people can be.
 
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What is the benefit of the pintle hitch?
Somewhat better articulation - and if you get a swivel setup, VASTLY better articulation, as in 360 degrees! But the main benefit is better security - a ball hitch *can* pop off at extreme angles. The pintle setup is also a hell of a lot noisier. Similar to this are the pin hitch vs ball hitch for fifth-wheel arguments. I'd have nothing but a ball hitch on a fifth wheel if I ever got one again - having had both. But the situation there is the exact opposite of this one, so I'll put up with the noise with the pintle.

There are also "interesting" potential problems when backing up offroad with a swivel pintle setup - yes there's a way to fix that too - its all what tradeoffs make sense to you and your situation.
 
I'd consider hard mounting the axle to the frame and get rid of the springs.

On our dump trailer...which we take to many questionable places we've ripped off...or rather my friend Steve...I call him breaker of shackles...has ripped the shackle hangers off at least four times.

Rory with Trailmater does the same thing with his little trailer.

-Mac
 
2005 LJ I tow a 6x8 trailer with Two dirtbikes about 500lbs or a Yamaha Kodiak (650lbs) on it
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The problem is the wheelbase of a TJ once the fish tail starts it whips the Jeep around.


Is your an automatic or manual?

Or maybe you answer that in the video. I'll see ...

ETA: Aw, hell, that was disturbing. Uh, I take it that was not you.

So, is your rig a manual shift or automatic?

I wouldn't be pulling this on the highway with my Jeep, only dirt, gravel and really bad mountain roads. Average speed on this last trip was about 19mph, and I can pull that down if I need to take the trailer. Especially after seeing that video. :eek:

But you do give me pause. Maybe the over-the-roof rack is the best option all around. And I definitely won't let the wife see that video.

ETA2:
Notable comments from the video:
  • They have “campers” specifically for Jeep’s. They are called tents I believe. :D
  • And the damn jeep is still worth 15k. :p
  • Not surprised. The TJ has a pitiful towing capacity/rating, about 2000lbs. That trailer easily weighs twice that and obviously took command and ripped it right off the road. That's why you ALWAYS read all the ratings and capacities when towing. It's usually down to the tow vehicles wheel base and weight and not power. Just because you can pull something doesn't mean you should. :unsure:
  • It's a Jeep thing. You wouldn't understand. :LOL:
 
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I'd consider hard mounting the axle to the frame and get rid of the springs.

On our dump trailer...which we take to many questionable places we've ripped off...or rather my friend Steve...I call him breaker of shackles...has ripped the shackle hangers off at least four times.

Rory with Trailmater does the same thing with his little trailer.

-Mac

I'm kinda impressed with the idea of the axelless setup that DEValken pointed out above.
 
My teardrop trailer has torsion suspension. Seeing as it is a custom construction have them make a replaceable skid plate for the back so the rear can drag and not catch on a rock. The fold up jack is the way to go. I have a fixed jack and I can’t use the crank or open the rear door when the trailer is attached. Luckily it doesn’t hit the spare during articulation.
 
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