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Newbie With Towing Questions

You will be fine, especially for under 300 miles 1-2 times a year and well within the tow rating. Sure an F250 can tow more, but it will also ride like a school bus in comparison to a half ton truck.

Real men drive 3/4 ton trucks!

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The bad back and sore neck are just a coincidence...

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The F350 has more overload springs in the back than my F250, I'm sorry I got talked into "the softer ride". My previous F350 didn't squat in the back with a bunch of weight. According to the literature, the 250 has a semi floater rear end, the 350 has a full floater. Not sure I know the difference.
 
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The F350 has more overload springs in the back than my F250, I'm sorry I got talked into "the softer ride". My previous F350 didn't squat in the back with a bunch of weight. According to the literature, the 250 has a semi floater rear end, the 350 has a full floater. Not sure I know the difference.

The 250 with Tremor package is the same truck as the 350 with Tremor package. Same springs, shocks, axles etc.

Different shocks, tires and a few other changes vs non-Tremor Superduty’s.

Non-Tremors the 250 and 350 are different.
 
That, and by the time you outfit the rig to flat tow, you're halfway to the cost of a small car hauler that is useful in many other ways.

I'd love to find a small car hauler for under $2K. My used towbar was $100, the used brake controller $600, and the magnetic tail lights another $75.
 
Beware if you're towing in hill country with a half ton. I'm not saying it cant be done- far from it. But half tons, bumper pull trailers and hills are a great way to end up in a bind.
Like others have said- air bags, a brake controller and an equalizing hitch will go a long ways towards keeping you safe.

Having said that, if you're looking for a new pickup I'd go gasser if you're only towing occasionally.
I've had several diesels and they're awesome if you tow alot but they are expensive to buy, expensive to maintain, and can be a pain in the ass in cold weather.
And I would 1000% stay away from anything that requires DEF.

Good luck in your search!
 
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I'd love to find a small car hauler for under $2K. My used towbar was $100, the used brake controller $600, and the magnetic tail lights another $75.

OK but if you were buying all those parts new what would it have cost?
 
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OK but if you were buying all those parts new what would it have cost?

No requirements to buy new.

Tow bar for mine was $100
Brake Buddy was $250
Mag lights were $40

These all store in my attic easy enough.

Sold my equalizer for $500

I’ll have another trailer just won’t be bumper pull.
 
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I'd love to find a small car hauler for under $2K. My used towbar was $100, the used brake controller $600, and the magnetic tail lights another $75.

They’re out there. I got my 14’ for $1,000. It isn’t pretty to look at but it gets the job done.

We just picked up this 32’ as well, for business purposes, but it’ll haul 2 jeeps to Moab beautifully. :love:

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Op, for your use case I would recommend a gas 3/4 ton, as long as you don't mind poor gas mileage when towing. And if you need to daily drive it as well, just put some weight in the bed, it should ride a little better. You could also change tire sizes for one with more sidewall, and run lower pressures when not towing.
 
They’re out there. I got my 14’ for $1,000. It isn’t pretty to look at but it gets the job done.

We just picked up this 32’ as well, for business purposes, but it’ll haul 2 jeeps to Moab beautifully. :love:

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Its all about payload and pin weight with that one. I'm wanting to buy a 30ft lowstyle gooseneck with drive over fenders and a 2ft dovetail and stand up ramps.

If my tow vehicle was a f350 instead of a f250 I would have more options on what trailer I could get.

I have a 16ft trailer that weighs 1400lbs and rated to carry 5600lbs that can haul any of the jeeps in the family but and wanting to carry 2 jeeps on certain trips.
 
Its all about payload and pin weight with that one. I'm wanting to buy a 30ft lowstyle gooseneck with drive over fenders and a 2ft dovetail and stand up ramps.

If my tow vehicle was a f350 instead of a f250 I would have more options on what trailer I could get.

I have a 16ft trailer that weighs 1400lbs and rated to carry 5600lbs that can haul any of the jeeps in the family but and wanting to carry 2 jeeps on certain trips.

I usually load them backwards and I have Timbrens in the rear. It’s possible I’m over payload but haven’t weighed it to find out and I don’t really care. It tows great, I’ve towed a lot of sketchy shit over the years and this isn’t one of those setups.
 
I usually load them backwards and I have Timbrens in the rear. It’s possible I’m over payload but haven’t weighed it to find out and I don’t really care. It tows great, I’ve towed a lot of sketchy shit over the years and this isn’t one of those setups.

I have weighed each jeep on CAT scales full of gas without driver. I know the weight of my truck, the GVWR, the payload and rated to tow capacity. Whatever trailer I buy I will figure and consider the empty weight and payload and will figure out my pin weight with the combination of jeeps in the family to make sure Im legal and safe.

Im not concerned about getting hassled in Oklahoma. It's some other state I might be going thru that might be a problem and I want to be able to show my weight slips.

I should have bought a f350 but when I bought my f250 I was more focused on how much it could tow and didn't even think about payload. My payload is 2905 lbs. which evidently is pretty good for a f250. Its a XL with the 7.3 gas, CC long bed 4wd.
 
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Beware if you're towing in hill country with a half ton. I'm not saying it cant be done- far from it. But half tons, bumper pull trailers and hills are a great way to end up in a bind.
Like others have said- air bags, a brake controller and an equalizing hitch will go a long ways towards keeping you safe.

Having said that, if you're looking for a new pickup I'd go gasser if you're only towing occasionally.
I've had several diesels and they're awesome if you tow alot but they are expensive to buy, expensive to maintain, and can be a pain in the ass in cold weather.
And I would 1000% stay away from anything that requires DEF.

Good luck in your search!

Yah butt....nothing like pulling a 6% grade at 65mph with 7000 lbs behind me and it never downshifts. That said, you need to order the correct rear end ratio. 313s won't give you that result.
 
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Yah butt....nothing like pulling a 6% grade at 65mph with 7000 lbs behind me and it never downshifts. That said, you need to order the correct rear end ratio. 313s won't give you that result.

I get what you're saying and definately don't disagree, but for once or twice a year pulling a smallish trailer I wouldn't get a diesel- especially one that needs DEF.
 
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I get what you're saying and definately don't disagree, but for once or twice a year pulling a smallish trailer I wouldn't get a diesel- especially one that needs DEF.

I have a 6.7 diesel(my second diesel, put 375k miles on the first one) and a F150 with a 5.0 coyote engine. I love the sound of a gas v8 and it probably costs 30% less to run. When the current diesel gets past 300k miles, I am going to consider a 7.3 gas engine.
 
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