Up to you, those with existing stuff can swap for about 9 bucks in shipping. They have to go up more than that to cover the coating.
New Wizard / BMB tail lights?
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Up to you, those with existing stuff can swap for about 9 bucks in shipping. They have to go up more than that to cover the coating.
Oh no.. so we will need an "Unfortunate BMB Taillight" thread
Excellent. Happy to hear this. The third brake light incorporated into the plate light is a neat idea.
I have the third brake LED button lights in the holes in the spare and another LED strip attached to the cargo basket (that comes on and off as needed). I hang a Trasheroo over the spare that covers the lights there-in, hence the basket mounted light...
I have no issue with folks being creative. I've been expecting some push back on the sides being brake function and folks wanting to know how to stop that part and just have them be marker and turn signals.
Looking at the installed pics though makes me happy. We worked very hard to get the brightness level between the rear and the sides balanced so they looked like they belong together.
The relocator and light bracket have been a pain in our ass. They delayed production for a long time. Then when we finally got them, they were wrong but fixable. We sent back most of them for them to rework and kept some here that we could do. We did ours and shipped the orders, they again delayed the rework longer than promised. We picked them up on Monday, dropped off samples to the e-coat shop Tuesday morning, they called yesterday to say they are done. I have to try and get them picked up today.
Had I know all the puzzle pieces would fit together so quickly I would have waited to order all at once. My bad. Impatient five year old that I am.
It's all coming together well, so your attention to detail isn't going unappreciated.
Marker lights with the brake lights? If I need those little lights to alert someone about to broad-side me... well... it's probably ending bad. I'm happy with them as they are, especially considering the anemic side markers lights on the Trail Tails.
I'm pretty sure as they ship, they are already turning on with the brakes, and that is because the brake and turn signals are a combined circuit and they ship wired up for that function.
What I believe Blaine is saying is that he believes there will be folks who want to have the bright portion of the side markers only do turn and not brakes, which is only possible by splitting the circuit using a 2 to 3 trailer converter box. As long as the brake/turn is on one circuit, anything you hook that wire up to will both blink on turns and stay solid on brake, with turns overriding brake anytime both are on (aka braking while the turn signal is selected).
I would be the guy who wants what Blaine mentioned, but it wouldn't stop me from purchasing. I would probably do it myself buying a converter box.
You can do it by pulling a signal from the front turns and hooking that into the high intensity function.
Good point, was only thinking of local to the rear area but that would probably be an easier/better choice.
To be clear, that is theoretical, we haven't done it yet to see if there are any glitches.
You had no way to know what we ourselves didn't know. The relocator and light bracket were supposed to be done at least 2 months ago. I also had no way to know the new e-coat place would turn them around in a couple of days.
I have a paint procedure, but when I read your earlier post Mr Blaine’s solution was much better. It still is. I’d wait. Painting something correctly is expensive. Minimum you need three different paints.
If you want to do it wrong, sure, just spray it with some SEM Trim black and watch it flake off next year.
Makes sense. It probably would be glitchy due to the floating ground up there in stock form. You would need to use some diodes or else the ground of the side marker bulb would interfere with the power tap for the rear side marker turn signal. Might even short the side markers to ground. I did the diode and resistor mod up front so for me it would just be grabbing a simple signal.
Could also be grabbed from in the cab at the turn signal indicators.
What I would really like is a custom lens where the top row of the dots is instead amber, and the bottom 3 rows are red. Then I could have separate rear amber turn signals. But no one makes a lens like that. It would be some work to accomplish and have it all work correctly, but I'd gladly do it if there were an option. Sadly it's way too much work for most so the product will never exist from a good company.
I suspect you could grab the whole mess and wire it into the 1st and 3rd for the fender light signal and then the 2nd and 4th for the flare light and have those pairs alternate like the fender and flare lights do.
When you say custom lens, do you mean just an amber marker light in one hole or a clear marker with red and amber LED's on a dual function circuit?
These markers are the standard OD that you find in the grommet mount 3/4" hole size. Removal of the grommet brings the OD down to around .625 or so. Emphasis on "standard" in quotes since they all vary slightly. The challenge will be getting the skirt the correct length and finding them with other than 18 gauge wire. The custom part of ours is the length and wire size. The OD was not changed nor was the lens.
To be fair, though painting isn't one of my top skill sets, I wouldn't just hit it with the top coat. Likewise, I probably wouldn't have used three different paints. With my limited knowledge (and desire) with painting, I would get it clean, spray it with a self-etching primer and then the top coat. Right or wrong, it has worked for all the other bits I've painted.
If the tabs weren't so small I would bring it to my paint guy and have him spray them. I've learned when to let the pro's do it and when to tackle it myself. I have a set of half doors at the shop getting painted body color (and the door cards getting dyed) so I'm sure he could hit the relocation bracket while the doors are in the booth.
I might wait to exchange it just so I don't ever have to come back here, explain the paint chips on my DIY job and get roasted by all of you for not doing it right the first time.
Again... being anal retentive.. the exposed mounting screws would need to be color matched. Unless they are being e-coated too.
Can't tell a lie.. I have no idea what you guys just said. I can calculate the net after-tax internal rate of return on staggered deposits to a taxable investment portfolio.. wiring LEDs. No Bueno.
That's why I leave this stuff to the pro's
Sorry, when I say lens I mean the actual tail light lens. Something that doesn’t exist. Amber function side markers would be neat, but wouldn’t really match with the all-red tail lens.
I wish for a custom rear lens that had a strip of amber so I could convert to separate amber rear turns signals. But it doesn’t exist so I can’t and it’s not something that would have enough demand for a supplier to be worth making (I don’t think anyways).
It's nothing too complicated, we're mostly just discussing ways one could make their BMB tail lights illuminate the bright mode of the side markers only on turns and not when braking. The way they ship they will illuminate bright on both braking and turns, as that is how the factory rear of the Jeep is wired.
You mean, like this? This specific one is crap (the red portion has circular pattern LEDs and nowhere as good in terms of brightness), but showing this just to make sure I'm understanding what you are saying..
I think this one won't look very good in the mode where the rear lights are on + blinking. You need to make the amber really bright to make it clearly visible against the red and it is very fatiguing for the people following you. I see it in some modern cars and I hate sitting behind them at night time.
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