Nah they was all going to grandma's house.........
Nashville TJ's Build - Continued
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Nah they was all going to grandma's house.........
Oh man, just got home. It never occurred to me that today was the Sunday of Thanksgiving weekend...
Damn, I didn't think about that either.
How was your ride out? Trying to avoid the traffic jam, google maps sent me down some back road that was full of hairpin turns into switch-back city. We did that for about 10 miles then got on some old 2 lane bypass highway for about 40 miles that wasn't much better just to get caught in stop and go traffic at every little town we went through. We spent every bit of 2 hours in slow moving traffic yesterday. East of Asheville everything was fine.
Started work this morning just to find out I have to drive 200 miles today. My butt hurts.
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Damn, I didn't think about that either.
How was your ride out? Trying to avoid the traffic jam, google maps sent me down some back road that was full of hairpin turns into switch-back city. We did that for about 10 miles then got on some old 2 lane bypass highway for about 40 miles that wasn't much better just to get caught in stop and go traffic at every little town we went through. We spent every bit of 2 hours in slow moving traffic yesterday. East of Asheville everything was fine.
Started work this morning just to find out I have to drive 200 miles today. My butt hurts.
Nasty. I stayed on 40, but it was bumper to bumper, stop and go, for 200 miles. Knoxville was a parking lot.
Dang Thanksgiving travelers.........
I used my phone to navigate when I didn't know where I was. I got tired of hearing "there are police ahead". They were hunting in a target rich environment yesterday.
Quick update on the R&P situation. I've spoken a few more times to Ben over at Filthy Motorsports. He did go back and check his inventory, and he actually had on hand a fully treated and shaved 14 bolt thick cut 5.38 R&P. He checked the history on it and said they had built and shaved it for racer customer a while back, but somewhere along the line the edge of one of the bearing surfaces on the pinion was nicked slightly. They were able to polish it out, but it was marked as "blemished," and they wound up doing another set for that customer as he was paying for a perfect gear set. Ben told me he could have sent it on to his customer and he never would have known. Sounds like Ben has some good customer service practices.
Ben checked all the specs on the pinion, everything measures out fine, and would work perfectly. Given the history, he said he would sell it to me for $750, and still warrant it. The $'s saved is certainly a plus, but the big deal is losing the long lead time. So, it's on its way to me.
From what Ben told me he could easily have not disclosed the history and sold it to me as new. Instead, he was honest. That builds trust, and that I respect.
I also sent Ben some pics of the last failed pinion, along with pics of the final pattern. He said the pattern looked good, but would have gone just a little deeper. But, he said the failure looked more like a debris failure, rather than shock load or deflection. That got me thinking:
I shaved this sissy 14-bolt myself, and welded on the AR500 plate to the bottom. Here is the case at the time of the last failure.
See that little bit of weld spatter at the bottom? When I shaved this sissy 14-bolt, I went in and aggressively chipped off all of that that would come up. What remained would not come off even whacking it hard with a cold chisel. I obviously did not think the remaining spatter would come off and cause a problem.
But given the two failures, now I'm thinking maybe with heating and cooling cycles a few of those pebbles could have come loose. I think one of those hardened beads going through would definitely cause some harm.
I've always said I was a hack.
Any thoughts as to whether this could be the case?
Regardless, when I get back in there I'll hit it with a rotary grinder and get rid of every one of those pebbles (grenades?).
Ben checked all the specs on the pinion, everything measures out fine, and would work perfectly. Given the history, he said he would sell it to me for $750, and still warrant it. The $'s saved is certainly a plus, but the big deal is losing the long lead time. So, it's on its way to me.
From what Ben told me he could easily have not disclosed the history and sold it to me as new. Instead, he was honest. That builds trust, and that I respect.
I also sent Ben some pics of the last failed pinion, along with pics of the final pattern. He said the pattern looked good, but would have gone just a little deeper. But, he said the failure looked more like a debris failure, rather than shock load or deflection. That got me thinking:
I shaved this sissy 14-bolt myself, and welded on the AR500 plate to the bottom. Here is the case at the time of the last failure.
See that little bit of weld spatter at the bottom? When I shaved this sissy 14-bolt, I went in and aggressively chipped off all of that that would come up. What remained would not come off even whacking it hard with a cold chisel. I obviously did not think the remaining spatter would come off and cause a problem.
But given the two failures, now I'm thinking maybe with heating and cooling cycles a few of those pebbles could have come loose. I think one of those hardened beads going through would definitely cause some harm.
I've always said I was a hack.
Any thoughts as to whether this could be the case?
Regardless, when I get back in there I'll hit it with a rotary grinder and get rid of every one of those pebbles (grenades?).
In other news, I took advantage of Matt's Black Friday sale and picked up a Bleepin' Winch Line. I like the idea of eliminating all of the metal, and also like the idea of being able to use it without throwing on a soft shackle - it's its own soft shackle.
Although I've not installed it, quality looks good. It's the same 3/8 rope which originally came with my Zeon, so it should hold up. I'll load it up at some point and give it a try.
Although I've not installed it, quality looks good. It's the same 3/8 rope which originally came with my Zeon, so it should hold up. I'll load it up at some point and give it a try.
And not having enough projects already going on, I started in on carving my newest granddaughter’s toy box.
I actually enjoy carving the flowers more than the Jeep’s or the Motorcycles.
And yeah, I’ve got a few tins of bandaids close at hand…
I actually enjoy carving the flowers more than the Jeep’s or the Motorcycles.
And yeah, I’ve got a few tins of bandaids close at hand…
What a great grandpa
Curious to know if carving like this would be a good use for a 3d printed template or if paper would still have the advantage.
Looks great Jeff.
You may have already posted this so sorry if I missed it. Do you have a pick of the failure. Again sorry if you answered this. It looks like he at one time offered a cryo treatment for $100. Where these failed sets cryoed after the machine work? Do you know why he no longer offers the service? Was it due to simply not being needed or sourcing issues? Just curious.
Really Flux? You missed that photo from a year ago among only about 3,800 posts in this thread???
I did post up a pic way earlier in this thread, and also over here in this discussion where it all originated:
https://wranglertjforum.com/threads/yukon-gear-vs-revolution-gear-for-a-14-bolt.88086/
It's the first post in that thread. I tried quite a few times this morning to load it up here, but for some reason the forum will not currently complete an upload of a pic to this thread.
I realized I wrote my post above thinking that the detailed discussion from that other thread was included here, which of course it was not. My bad.
As to your questions, I'm just a bit confused. Are you referring to Filthy Motorsports? They still do the cryo stuff - at least to the R&P's they sell.
The R&P's which failed for me were both from Yukon, not from Filthy. This is the first time I'm dealing with them and Crown Race Gears - also owned by Filthy.
There is much more detail over in that other thread. Blaine is the one who suggested looking at Crown Race Gears.
Thanks for the link, I had not seen it. That is some great info and answered all my questions. I always like knowing how something failed.
Simple. You have Hemispherical heads.
And a healthy right foot.... Since I don't have a right foot anymore I'm hoping to not follow in Jeff's footsteps..
Finished up most of the carving on Scarlett's toy box today.
A little clean-up and I can get this thing assembled and finished. I'd like to get this behind me because I have a few Jeep (you know, that thing we all have which is the reason we are all here?) and trailer projects to get to.
A little clean-up and I can get this thing assembled and finished. I'd like to get this behind me because I have a few Jeep (you know, that thing we all have which is the reason we are all here?) and trailer projects to get to.
I like it. Are you going to be applying any stains/colors? A little shading to make that flower 'pop'?
Not being a woodworker, I'm always impressed with Jeff's work. BlueC, what's the workflow for getting shading like that?
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