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Is This Frame Too Rusty?

someguysjeep said:
this guys local to me. not sure if he ships.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/879830635915440/?ref=saved&referral_code=null

fixing a frame seems like a daunting task to some, but for some of us it's no big deal. a few chunks of tube and a welder and you can save any frame you want to.
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Looking through that post...I noticed a picture. Anyone else know what the pokey things are sticking up out of the cross member? That would suck to pay the big bucks for a blasted and painted frame, then have to figure out how to remove the shock bolts with undoing all that work.

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Mike_H said:
Looking through that post...I noticed a picture. Anyone else know what the pokey things are sticking up out of the cross member? That would suck to pay the big bucks for a blasted and painted frame, then have to figure out how to remove the shock bolts with undoing all that work.

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Good eye, Mike!
 
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Mike_H said:
Looking through that post...I noticed a picture. Anyone else know what the pokey things are sticking up out of the cross member? That would suck to pay the big bucks for a blasted and painted frame, then have to figure out how to remove the shock bolts with undoing all that work.

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can't tell the condition, even if i blow it up, lets hope those are new cause that'd be a phone call i'd get hung up on if they were not.
 
someguysjeep said:
can't tell the condition, even if i blow it up, lets hope those are new cause that'd be a phone call i get hung up on if they were not.
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Well, there aren't any shocks present... And they are the same color as the rest of the frame. It's an assumption, but I feel pretty good about it, that those are broken bolts that were left in the frame.

Having bought my fair share of "previously loved" parts, I look for that kind of crap before I do anything to refinish them.
 
Mike_H said:
Well, there aren't any shocks present... And they are the same color as the rest of the frame. It's an assumption, but I feel pretty good about it, that those are broken bolts that were left in the frame.

Having bought my fair share of "previously loved" parts, I look for that kind of crap before I do anything to refinish them.
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I was wondering if they were bolts to keep the threads from being painted
 
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Rubicon88 said:
These rust questions crack me up though.

#1 I guarantee you there are many members of this very forum running around with a frame in identical condition as the subject vehicle. Some even worse. I guarantee it.
#2 this is a subject that can't really give a true accurate opinion of as you can't tell the real question here. It's obviously rusty but is it safe or not. Ultimately this is an in person diagnosis that needs done.....

But again, only if it's a Jeep that the OP really wants to keep and loves. If not who the hell cares. It's a moot point.


Is it setup exactly as you like? Do you love the thing?
Know how to weld or a friend that can?
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Stop looking under my Wrangler :)

Jeep life is interesting as stated above. If you don't know how to weld, learn. It will save you a few thousand bucks down the line, and can help someone else as well.

Torque box may need to get replaced(cut out the rust cap with new one wel/tack in place or even rivet). Clean up the frame and see if you can poke through. May be drivable for a while.

I bought mine knowing that I wanted to give it a stretch in the rear. Everything else was OK and the price was just right
If the price is good enough, and you like everything else, go for it. West coast folks are a little more picky because they can be :cool:
 
Ephry73 said:
Jeep life is interesting as stated above. If you don't know how to weld, learn. It will save you a few thousand bucks down the line, and can help someone else as well.
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Yeah man, I bought a cheap flux welder from harbor freight & watched YouTube videos. Now I'm laying dimes!! Not really, they look like shit but I'm getting better.
 
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qslim said:
Yeah man, I bought a cheap flux welder from harbor freight & watched YouTube videos. Now I'm laying dimes!! Not really, they look like shit but I'm getting better.
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I know exactly what you mean. Whoever capped the driver's side of the jeep was also learning. It's solid, but the beads are more like anal beads and anything. I used that to lower the price and when I got home I ground down and evened a bunch of metal then painted it. It's solid, and burned in.
 
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Ephry73 said:
I know exactly what you mean. Whoever capped the driver's side of the jeep was also learning. It's solid, but the beads are more like anal beads and anything. I used that to lower the price and when I got home I ground down and evened a bunch of metal then painted it. It's solid, and burned in.
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Look at these gems. Trying to learn & sticking random shit together. I like to think I've gotten better.

I showed this to my pal who fabs for a living, he said "it looks like a fucking teenager ejaculated across all those joints".

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qslim said:
Look at these gems. Trying to learn & sticking random shit together. I like to think I've gotten better.

I showed this to my pal who fabs for a living, he said "it looks like a fucking teenager ejaculated across all those joints".

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Not too bad. I bought a bunch of scrap metal and now that the weather is getting better I will be making all sorts of "projects" to get the practice, until I tackle something more structurally safe/deadly. I'm more of a grinder than a welder :cool:
 
Ephry73 said:
Not too bad. I bought a bunch of scrap metal and now that the weather is getting better I will be making all sorts of "projects" to get the practice, until I tackle something more structurally safe/deadly. I'm more of a grinder than a welder :cool:
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I was determined to weld up my right front JJ bracket, I've been putting beads down on all kinds of shit. Finally got confident enough after two spools & cutting cross sections to check penetration. I think I got it. Y'all will find out at TJ Fest if it breaks off though...


rasband said:
Where’s the filler wire!?
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Don't even know what you mean, that's how dangerously confident I am.
 
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qslim said:
Look at these gems. Trying to learn & sticking random shit together. I like to think I've gotten better.

I showed this to my pal who fabs for a living, he said "it looks like a fucking teenager ejaculated across all those joints".

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this a 110V flux welder?

put that bitch on max volts and about 350 (5-6) for wire speed and just draw a 1" straight line slow and steady. see how that does. no back n forth no circles just a straight line.
 
someguysjeep said:
this a 110V flux welder?

put that bitch on max volts and about 350 (5-6) for wire speed and just draw a 1" straight line slow and steady. see how that does. no back n forth no circles just a straight line.
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Yeah that’s what I eventually figured out
 
Ephry73 said:
West coast folks are a little more picky because they can be :cool:
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You got that right. Some however I think are allergic to even the thought of rust.

You know those Philips screws that hold in the taillight covers???
I heard those out West and down South started sending their Jeep's to the salvage yard until they learned all those screws back there rust.
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