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Installed a 1" steering bracket lift with surprising results

I just bought the MORE riser, I have yet to install it. The reason I got one is interesting. I have had a savvy body lift on for about 8-10 years. I’ve had zero interference at the firewall until recently. A couple weeks back my steering has been a little wonky. Digging into it I notice I now have major interference with the shaft and fire wall, as the firewall is digging into the steering shaft.

What would cause this, rubber body mounts slowly compacting? I know the savvy BL hasn’t moved.

Since the steering shaft is a double d shaft, it digs in hard then as the shaft turns it gains clearance. Which I believe is what I’m feeling in my steering wheel
 
I just bought the MORE riser, I have yet to install it. The reason I got one is interesting. I have had a savvy body lift on for about 8-10 years. I’ve had zero interference at the firewall until recently. A couple weeks back my steering has been a little wonky. Digging into it I notice I now have major interference with the shaft and fire wall, as the firewall is digging into the steering shaft.

What would cause this, rubber body mounts slowly compacting? I know the savvy BL hasn’t moved.

Since the steering shaft is a double d shaft, it digs in hard then as the shaft turns it gains clearance. Which I believe is what I’m feeling in my steering wheel

If the interference is resulting from a change in the way the body attaches to the frame, you need to look at the frame mounts, or the body mount isolator internal steel structure, or the underbody torque boxes. Something is collapsing.
 
Ok here's some photos, help me figure out what's going on here lol. Looks like the extra steering weight is possibly due to the shaft contacting at the firewall.

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If the interference is resulting from a change in the way the body attaches to the frame, you need to look at the frame mounts, or the body mount isolator internal steel structure, or the underbody torque boxes. Something is collapsing.

Which I have, it’s a nice clean frame and tub. Visually the rubber looks good on the isolators but didn’t think about the steel inserts. Only thing I came up with is the body could have shifted forward. I do rock crawl and go fast with my Jeep…. I’ll dig into it some more.

I’m also curious now to look at the joint in the shaft and see if that is also binding as Blaine mentioned above. It does feel like something is loading and unloading.
 
Which I have, it’s a nice clean frame and tub. Visually the rubber looks good on the isolators but didn’t think about the steel inserts. Only thing I came up with is the body could have shifted forward. I do rock crawl and go fast with my Jeep…. I’ll dig into it some more.

I’m also curious now to look at the joint in the shaft and see if that is also binding as Blaine mentioned above. It does feel like something is loading and unloading.

Maybe the steering gear itself is worn out
 
Maybe the steering gear itself is worn out

There is no play in the steering. Just a very slight notchy feeling in the wheel. It’s subtle but it’s noticeable. Long term goal is to go hydro assist, I’ll get the riser installed and see if that solves it first. Still need to figure out why it started. It did start this issue after doing some high speed runs through some pretty rough sections of trail
 
Ok here's some photos, help me figure out what's going on here lol. Looks like the extra steering weight is possibly due to the shaft contacting at the firewall.

Before/after:
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Your pillow block is about an inch higher than mine in reference to the the intake. I have 1-1/4" body and 1" mml. Idk what you have installed or what is bent but i would remove that 1" riser.
 
Your pillow block is about an inch higher than mine in reference to the the intake. I have 1-1/4" body and 1" mml. Idk what you have installed or what is bent but i would remove that 1" riser.

I'll remove the riser if necessary, but I'm moreso hoping I just messed this install up somehow and it can be fixed so that the shaft no longer contacts the firewall, but I get to keep the improved on center feel and stability of the steering.

Once I installed the riser, I was not able to get the u joint to completely bottom out against the pillow block. Should the u joint be all the way on here?
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Here's some photos from underneath of the bracket. Only thing I can think of is I did not verify the torque spec for either of the bracket bolts. Perhaps if they're not torqued correctly then the bracket isn't in position fully?
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I'll remove the riser if necessary, but I'm moreso hoping I just messed this install up somehow and it can be fixed so that the shaft no longer contacts the firewall, but I get to keep the improved on center feel and stability of the steering.

Once I installed the riser, I was not able to get the u joint to completely bottom out against the pillow block. Should the u joint be all the way on here?
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Here's some photos from underneath of the bracket. Only thing I can think of is I did not verify the torque spec for either of the bracket bolts. Perhaps if they're not torqued correctly then the bracket isn't in position fully?
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Whatever block you're steering riser is on is not stock. Nor is the vertical plate.
 
Whatever block you're steering riser is on is not stock. Nor is the vertical plate.

Aha, now we're getting somewhere.

I think I've stumbled upon a janky steering riser already installed by the prior owner. I just didn't realize it and installed the new riser right on top of the existing spacer bracket. 🤦

Once I remove that, all should be well, which is to say I also will probably notice no difference in my steering with this riser bracket installed. 😂

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Aha, now we're getting somewhere.

I think I've stumbled upon a janky steering riser already installed by the prior owner. I just didn't realize it and installed the new riser right on top of the existing spacer bracket. 🤦

Once I remove that, all should be well, which is to say I also will probably notice no difference in my steering with this riser bracket installed. 😂

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Those type steering risers used to come with a lot of BL kits.
 
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Aha, now we're getting somewhere.

I think I've stumbled upon a janky steering riser already installed by the prior owner. I just didn't realize it and installed the new riser right on top of the existing spacer bracket. 🤦

Once I remove that, all should be well, which is to say I also will probably notice no difference in my steering with this riser bracket installed. 😂

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I would use whichever of the two centers the steering column best greg. That is the most important factor
 
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