Bronco vs. Wrangler

[JMT]

I’ve watched 3 videos on Bronco vs JL and I’ve concluded it was a waste of my time and not interesting. For most of us on the forum, we buy a Jeep to modify it. That’s fun and interesting. Dropping $60-80k on a vehicle just to drive down what most of us consider easy trails, is a bad and boring idea (to me).

 

[Apparition]

I’ve watched 3 videos on Bronco vs JL and I’ve concluded it was a waste of my time and not interesting. For most of us on the forum, we buy a Jeep to modify it. That’s fun and interesting. Dropping $60-80k on a vehicle just to drive down what most of us consider easy trails, is a bad and boring idea (to me).

It's neat to see other people spend that kind of money to take them out though. Plenty of new model rigs running the Rubicon when I was there.

 

[RonnieS]

The bronco is very much trail-capable and it looks like that manual 4 kind of lacks in the engine department for serious upgrades or offroading but that manual itself is great and computerized to an extent such as auto start-stop restarting the engine at the stall when brake and clutch are pushed back in. give that bronco 15 years and novak adapting and that thing will prolly have a gm under that size engine bay. But for now the 6 cylinder with automatic seem to be under geared for 35's at 4.77 from factory and with the rear being a dana 44 I am not sure it's even worth getting any upgrade for the bronco If you plan on serious modifying other than the 6 cylinder engine. The bronco is like the next gen jeep, it more on road focused and less off road focused or at least I would say that the new bronco sets as worse onroad than the Range Rover Defender yet better off road . Better on road than a NEW cross over steering style jeep wrangler but worse off road. So it sits in the middle for people who daily drive more than off road No more need for Jeep/pickup truck or nothing scenario. That independent front suspension makes sense because of where it sits between those 2 competitors. Personally for the Upstate new york and salt area I can't take my TJ with me and am also buying a bronco for the east leaving my Jeep at home in the west (again so it doesn't rust out and die my jeeps from Chicago Illinois). Th abeing said ford has a issue with some surface rust on all their trucks and suvs from factory that shows they still don't paint S*** like they should but nothing major of a problem that would stop someone from buying it just long term issues possibly. RN the bronco is having a lot of hard top problems that will take a year to figure out form noises to bad creaky build quality and some people are missing cup holders in the center armrest in the rear seat and bronco logo stitching the front seats as the factory is still learning how to make a bronco it's not like Toledo ohio where the jeeps have always been (minus that welding incident and half rubicon/ half stock Jk fender mistake).

Overall the Bronco you will find 20 of them on the highway on Saturday and you will find 20 Jeep on the trail that same day. But they are both great products, I don't like the new jeep tech and always have a bad experience with them but a twin turbo v6 or worse i4 is also nothing that I would expect much life out of. For price though the bronco offer much more than the wrangler at the moment and if they made enough of them I believe ( my own opinion) that bronco would outsell the jeep at this moment/year. But anything can change and I'm sure the CHRYSTLER TECHONOLOGY CENTER is working on something even though the next gen Jeep JY isn't due until 2025. with hopefully the new Inline 6 3.0 with twin turbos releasing soon...

 

[1o1proof]

Everyone saying, nobody will take the bronco off road like jeep owners do. How many 2021 Jeeps are you going to see on the trail?

Asking for a friend.

 

[Rick Flair]

We are discussing selling the 4Runner for a Bronco.

It’s a nice hybrid for us, fills more than the 4Runner can, but not a Jeep for the 95% of daily driver it will honestly be.


We do use our stuff off-road. But I got out of rock crawling a long time ago and black trails just aren’t my thing anymore.


But I’d take it on the Rubicon and Moab without much worry.


It’s really my wife wanting a convertible, a overland rig and it can still do this type of wheeling.

 

[RonnieS]

We are discussing selling the 4Runner for a Bronco.

It’s a nice hybrid for us, fills more than the 4Runner can, but not a Jeep for the 95% of daily driver it will honestly be.


We do use our stuff off-road. But I got out of rock crawling a long time ago and black trails just aren’t my thing anymore.


But I’d take it on the Rubicon and Moab without much worry.


It’s really my wife wanting a convertible, a overland rig and it can still do this type of wheeling.

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Sounds like a good choice, that yota will fetch some shiny pennies.

 

[Alex01]

I'm invisioning the owner of this bronco wondering why he didn't buy a Wrangler while moving this rock to stage the photo.

 

[Midnight LJR]

I'm invisioning the owner of this bronco wondering why he didn't buy a Wrangler while moving this rock to stage the photo.
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Every picture/video I see of them they have tires in the air.

They are not rock crawlers, a bunch of these guys think they can have their cake and eat it to. With IFS on the freeway and rock crawling as good as a Jeep. I feel like a bunch of them are in for a rude awakening.

Just blast down dirt roads, that’s what Broncos are for.

 

[Alex01]

Every picture/video I see of them they have tires in the air.

They are not rock crawlers, a bunch of these guys think they can have their cake and eat it to. With IFS on the freeway and rock crawling as good as a Jeep. I feel like a bunch of them are in for a rude awakening.

Just blast down dirt roads, that’s what Broncos are for.

100%

 

[Davidtj]

Just wait in a couple of years kits will be out to put solid axles under your bronco

 

[Sancho]

Interesting to watch this thread ebb and flow. The reality is the Wrangler doesn't need to be compared to anything else, or defended, because there is nothing else like it. The Wrangler helped win a World War, inspired generations of off-road enthusiasts, and is the only vehicle like it in production today. Others can emulate some of the features, but they will never emulate its iconic heritage. There, I said it!

But Ford built most of those "wranglers"...

 

[Irun]

But Ford built most of those "wranglers"...

"Built" is the key word. However, what they manufactured used the Willys licensed design.

 

[Zorba]

"Built" is the key word. However, what they manufactured used the Willys licensed design.

And they weren't called "Wranglers" either.

 

[Apparition]

And they weren't called "Wranglers" either.

And Ford made a lot of changes. I believe Ford changes led to the seven slot grill. Ford built them with nine or something.

 

[ColoJeep]

But Ford built most of those "wranglers"...

X 2 they weren't Wranglers, but then again Willys production = 359489 > 277896 Ford production GPW , just saying.

 

[RonnieS]

Yeah for off-roading again jeep, but most people and sales are on the highway driving based. i'd take a random guess and say that the next wrangler will be more highway focused too maybe 35's standard. jeep is interested in an Independent front suspension for some time, remember that 2wd wrangler model that last 1 year

 

[L J]

i'd take a random guess and say that the next wrangler will be more highway focused too maybe 35's standard.

35s ain't "highway focused"

jeep is interested in an Independent front suspension for some time, remember that 2wd wrangler model that last 1 year

Jeep is interested in selling units. The soccer moms and Sallies who think "this car rides too rough" are interested in independent front suspension.

 

[Apparition]

X 2 they weren't Wranglers, but then again Willys production = 359489 > 277896 Ford production GPW , just saying.

Ford was busy building a lot of equipment

 

[RonnieS]

35s ain't "highway focused"

Jeep is interested in selling units. The soccer moms and Sallies who think "this car rides too rough" are interested in independent front suspension.

I agree the Bronco with 35's drives as good as the jeep with 33's. the Bronco with 33's and IFS drives better than a jeep but no one here cares about that. All on road at least. IFS loses it's the purpose at 35" tires and beyond which makes the bronco a harder sell.

 

[KcTj]

Ford was busy building a lot of equipment

Ford was busy building lots of equipment, for the U.S. and for Germany. Not sure if Willys was working with the ‘enemy’.