Baja Designs S2 Pro: which beam pattern?

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I'll be purchasing some BD S2 Pros for back-up lights and want to get some opinions on which beam pattern to go with. I'm leaning towards the 180⁰ work/scene pattern but have read that some opted for the 40⁰ wide cornering. I'm thinking for low-speed backing in the dark of night desert or mountains that the 180⁰ pattern is a better choice.
 
I’m using the flood pattern for back up lights
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I bought wide cornering at first because BD seemed to recommend them for backing up. I did not like those at all, I switched to work/scene which was a much better fit; essentially a flood light which is what you want when backing up.

All that said, my lights have barely any use (4 years old) and one of them flickers. I don’t think I’d buy Baja Designs again. I like Rigid products better. I’ve used tons of them over the years and never an issue. Maybe my issue is a fluke, don’t know. I don’t like them enough to bother with warranty. I got rid of the bumper I was using them on, so I’ll need to make another purchase anyways and I’ll probably be going with something else next.
 
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I bought wide cornering at first because BD seemed to recommend them for backing up. I did not like those at all, I switched to work/scene which was a much better fit; essentially a flood light which is what you want when backing up.

All that said, my lights have barely any use (4 years old) and one of them flickers. I don’t think I’d buy Baja Designs again. I like Rigid products better. I’ve used tons of them over the years and never an issue. Maybe my issue is a fluke, don’t know. I don’t like them enough to bother with warranty. I got rid of the bumper I was using them on, so I’ll need to make another purchase anyways and I’ll probably be going with something else next.

This is good info... If I were to buy a BD, I would expect oem relaibility, not flickering, not in 4 years, not from barely use, but solid 25+ years latter.
 
This is good info... If I were to buy a BD, I would expect oem relaibility, not flickering, not in 4 years, not from barely use, but solid 25+ years latter.

It's only one data point, so I don't want to totally condemn them...but I've always liked Rigid products and was reluctant to try the BDs...I went with the S1s because I was looking for a simple hole saw install, which is why I went with BD, and resultant S1. The flickering was what sealed the deal for them now being a no-go. I don't necessarily think they're a bad product, seems like lots of folks like them, but I already had a different brand I wanted to use, I didn't use them, and now I feel like I lost out because of it. So overall just not the best experience.

I am back to a minimalist bumper now, I have some of the fancy backup lights in the stock tail housings for now, so gonna rock those for a bit. I want to add something to the tub, like a Rigid light, but not sure I ever actually will. Don't really want to cut up the tub for lights in case I ever have regret.
 
It's only one data point, so I don't want to totally condemn them...but I've always liked Rigid products and was reluctant to try the BDs...I went with the S1s because I was looking for a simple hole saw install, which is why I went with BD, and resultant S1. The flickering was what sealed the deal for them now being a no-go. I don't necessarily think they're a bad product, seems like lots of folks like them, but I already had a different brand I wanted to use, I didn't use them, and now I feel like I lost out because of it. So overall just not the best experience.

I am back to a minimalist bumper now, I have some of the fancy backup lights in the stock tail housings for now, so gonna rock those for a bit. I want to add something to the tub, like a Rigid light, but not sure I ever actually will. Don't really want to cut up the tub for lights in case I ever have regret.

That's sounds like a wiring issue. I've had Baja Designs on my truck since 2017 with hundreds of hours of use with not a single issue. If they are flickering, you could have an issue either with your wiring or wiring in the harness. I'd be really surprised if something that new had an issue with the diode. I'm sure it's possible.

But these are some of the best in the industry, and Rigid isn't even in the same class.
 
That's sounds like a wiring issue. I've had Baja Designs on my truck since 2017 with hundreds of hours of use with not a single issue. If they are flickering, you could have an issue either with your wiring or wiring in the harness. I'd be really surprised if something that new had an issue with the diode. I'm sure it's possible.

Anything is possible, but I’m going to say that a wiring issue is unlikely. I pay a great deal of attention to my wiring jobs (each crimp) and based on the fact that one light flickered and the other did not (wired to a Y-harness I built), there is only one connection point that could have failed to cause that. The lights have seen no moisture, rain, etc, and they didn’t flicker when they were installed in 2021 or whenever it was (around then). The connections looked good upon removal.

But these are some of the best in the industry, and Rigid isn't even in the same class.

Not really sure what this means but I’ve owned possibly 20 different rigid products and not a single one has exhibited any failure, moisture, etc. The Rigid fog lights on my truck have been on with the headlights since install 3 years ago, and so they also have tons of hours on them. Not to be derogatory, but usually comments like that are fanboy, opinion based statements and are not based on comparing actual light output, pattern, color, or longevity.

It doesn’t help my bias for Rigid that Baja Designs doesn’t understand what the color amber is, nor do they understand what an SAE fog pattern is. Yellow with a green tint is not amber. Lights that blind people or are hard to look at are not fogs. I can’t take anything I’ve seen from Baja compared against a Rigid and say I think anything they make is truly better.

The two potential Rigid downsides I can think of are cost, and the fact that you can’t change the lens. On cost, I get considerable discounts from someone on another forum, and for the lens stuff, I find I haven’t gotten the desired result wrong yet. Whereas following Baja’s advice for backup lights, I got the wrong lens for my use. So as long as I can avoid that, I’m ok without being able to change a lens. It is a nice feature though if needed or if plans for a light change and you move it to a different spot.

That said, just for curiosity, I’ll hook that light I claim is faulty up directly to a battery and see if it flickers. If it doesn’t, I’ll rightfully admit as such. It didn’t flicker all the time so I may have to wait a bit to get it to act up.
 
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The best I found after a not-extensive googling was from Offroad Trading Co. ( Jeep Hut subsidiary) with a coupon code. Most places were msrp $221 ea.

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I ended up getting the same deal but purchased from Apollo Off-Road as they are a forum sponsor on a truck forum I frequent.
 
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