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32RH Transmission Issues

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@hear -2002 32rh if it helps.

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That does help. I swear my dipstick isn’t tapered like yours is. And it appears that the seal goes in from the top, and the dipstick fits down into the opening? I swear I tried exactly that but my tube was not going in that hole.

(that’s what he said to her)

I have the one off eBay, and another (much cheaper) more or less identical one off Rock Auto. I guess we’ll just see.

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This isn’t my 97 that I’ve been talking about, it’s my daughters 97 that is having its pump seal replaced this weekend.

No taper, and no sign of the tell tale lip of that seal like you have. I’m going to find an o-ring inside there.

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That does help. I swear my dipstick isn’t tapered like yours is. And it appears that the seal goes in from the top, and the dipstick fits down into the opening? I swear I tried exactly that but my tube was not going in that hole.

(that’s what he said to her)

I have the one off eBay, and another (much cheaper) more or less identical one off Rock Auto. I guess we’ll just see.

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That is weird that they would make two different types.
 
That is the right seal,are you sure you have the right tube?

See above, looks pretty factory to me. They’re both 97’s which could muddy the waters. But now I have two 97 autos with the same sort of tube.


Also the FSM for the 97 shows an o-ring.
 
Must be two diameters in that bore in the case. The oring is a stop on the smaller diameter to limit the insertion depth.
 
Must be two diameters in that bore in the case. The oring is a stop on the smaller diameter to limit the insertion depth.

I don't believe that to be the case, from my recollection. I'll know in a few days what this other 97 has to say about it.
 
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I’ve already highjacked this thread beyond belief, but here’s the dipstick tube I just pulled out of my 97. You can see the tube is the same dimension all the way down, other than the “waistline” for the o-ring and the chamfer(?) on the end. I’m here to tell you there is nothing stopping you from putting it in too far; there is no taper in the bore.

I did find on a mopar forum (a-bodies only, maybe?) where some aftermarket dipsticks fit perfectly using the rubber “grommet” thing we’ve been taking about. If this thing leaks I’m gonna give that a shot. I’m tired of needing rtv to seal up the dipstick.

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The green paint was sprayed by me while it was still in the case, so I have an idea of the depth when I go to put it back together.
 
You sure it’s the stock tube,the brackets on the bell house should set the depth

It's 27 years old and I'm the 4th owner, so who can ever be sure of such a thing. But I have two 97's in my driveway with identical dipstick setups so that would be quite a coincidence. Parts diagrams are pretty much identical from 97-02 (appears to be an o-ring throughout the years), but the 97 actually has a different part number for the dipstick and the seal.

Part19971998
Oil Filler Tube5211 806052104 243AB
Oil Filler Tube SealJ094 029852118 629AB


From the 97 Parts Manual:
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From the 98 Parts Manual:

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Searching for J094 0298 does turn up an o-ring looking thing...

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But the plot thickens if you dig a little deeper. I found this odd note on teamgrandwagoneer.com (which sounds like a Jeep-related site) where apparently the o-ring style was used on Chevy TH350/400 transmissions and specifically the longer sleeve style, which they call a "hat seal" replaces part number J094 0298, but unless the dipstick also changed there is just no way. But also, Wagoneers, Full Size Cherokees, and the J truck used a Chevy transmission at one point??

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It's 27 years old and I'm the 4th owner, so who can ever be sure of such a thing. But I have two 97's in my driveway with identical dipstick setups so that would be quite a coincidence. Parts diagrams are pretty much identical from 97-02 (appears to be an o-ring throughout the years), but the 97 actually has a different part number for the dipstick and the seal.

Part19971998
Oil Filler Tube5211 806052104 243AB
Oil Filler Tube SealJ094 029852118 629AB


From the 97 Parts Manual:
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From the 98 Parts Manual:

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Searching for J094 0298 does turn up an o-ring looking thing...

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But the plot thickens if you dig a little deeper. I found this odd note on teamgrandwagoneer.com (which sounds like a Jeep-related site) where apparently the o-ring style was used on Chevy TH350/400 transmissions and specifically the longer sleeve style, which they call a "hat seal" replaces part number J094 0298, but unless the dipstick also changed there is just no way. But also, Wagoneers, Full Size Cherokees, and the J truck used a Chevy transmission at one point??

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You should be able to stab it in and rotate it to the bell housing bolt .if it won’t do that it either is not right or the bracket has been altered or bent.
 
You should be able to stab it in and rotate it to the bell housing bolt .if it won’t do that it either is not right or the bracket has been altered or bent.

thats my plan this time around. I was much more careful removing it, and i've got markings so I can see in what ways is it off, if it ends up being off. But based on prior experience there is no orientation that made it seal up without RTV. But i'm hoping this time is different. Meanwhile I'm feeling a little vindicated that the FSM backs up my findings about it being an o-ring seal.
 
thats my plan this time around. I was much more careful removing it, and i've got markings so I can see in what ways is it off, if it ends up being off. But based on prior experience there is no orientation that made it seal up without RTV. But i'm hoping this time is different. Meanwhile I'm feeling a little vindicated that the FSM backs up my findings about it being an o-ring seal.

You most likely need a fatter o ring,if you need dipstick measure,let me know-jeff
 
You most likely need a fatter o ring,if you need dipstick measure,let me know-jeff

Last summer I found somebody selling the o-ring, but I still leaked. I tried other o-rings out of a kit but nothing I had fit right. Honestly, an aftermarket dipstick is probably what is needed here.
 
Last summer I found somebody selling the o-ring, but I still leaked. I tried other o-rings out of a kit but nothing I had fit right. Honestly, an aftermarket dipstick is probably what is needed here.

It need to be anchored to a bolt,if you need some measurements ,let me know,somebody on here will have to have a 97 auto that can take pics of it’s mounting? You could most likely use the 2002 tapered tube and stick
 
It need to be anchored to a bolt,if you need some measurements ,let me know,somebody on here will have to have a 97 auto that can take pics of it’s mounting? You could most likely use the 2002 tapered tube and stick

This one would work with the hat type seal

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It need to be anchored to a bolt,if you need some measurements ,let me know,somebody on here will have to have a 97 auto that can take pics of it’s mounting? You could most likely use the 2002 tapered tube and stick

LOL, it definitely doesn't need to be anchored to a bolt if you use enough RTV. Trust me, I've tried it 6 ways from Sunday. But I've decided to completely say eff it, I just ordered this, which some of the mopar a-body guys say is a perfect fit.

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