Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ engine mounts

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well guess what I got wont fit. Below is tower I have with wasted boot. This one has four holes (boot removed) I had assumed threaded in the top

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What I got is apparently from an older jeep as a replacement boot along with some other NOS parts packageOld style Low Shifterboot.jpg
 
in thinking about this..( I know that is dangerous thing) am considering cutting the above boot at some spot where I can use a metal or plastic big zip tie to clamp it onto the tower... Maybe not even cut it. The boot has a metal part in the base... the weight of that may help keep the boot.. even though clamped... from wanting to work its way off via vibrations

What jeep did that boot come off of? curious its orientation when properly installed considering that the hole for the shifter is offset of center.

or just get this one LOL

https://txdistributing.com/nv3500-nv3550-inner-shift-boot/
 
in thinking about this..( I know that is dangerous thing) am considering cutting the above boot at some spot where I can use a metal or plastic big zip tie to clamp it onto the tower... Maybe not even cut it. The boot has a metal part in the base... the weight of that may help keep the boot.. even though clamped... from wanting to work its way off via vibrations

What jeep did that boot come off of? curious its orientation when properly installed considering that the hole for the shifter is offset of center.

The bottom boot in your pic is for 1997-2002 only and it's the lower or inner

03 and 04 had a plate that looked like the one attached below and then the shifter assembly like you pictured.

I am fairly certain 05 and 06 were the same way although the boot changed shapes but same idea.

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The bottom boot is for 1997-2002 only and it's the lower or inner

03 and 04 had a plate that looked like the one attached below and then the shifter assembly like you pictured.

I am fairly certain 05 and 06 were the same way although the boot changed shapes but same idea.

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what is that plate bolted too? cab or trans? Is this the one notorious for causing issues if you have a body lift?
 
In other words..on an 03 up you have the top boot and then the shifter assembly and that's it.
 
In other words..on an 03 up you have the top boot and then the shifter assembly and that's it.

ahhhh ok... I dont know what previous owner of my rig mix/matched. By serial it is an 02.. but that is all I know. was Fabricated to a diesel before I got it. I had a stripped 04 body put on it.

Sorry mod/admin.. maybe this portion of this thread should be moved to a newly created thread on boots
 
ohhh there is THREE boots.

  1. on the trans shift tower (one version round, other square)
  2. one on tub. apparently that is for keeping heat out of cab. THINK this one is the one notorious for pushing shifter out of gear if you have a big body lift (which I do 3") or it is the next one (or both)
  3. upper in cab held in with a plastic surround that clips into center console.
hmmm.. wonder #2 above can be inverted to help with the pop out of gear issue folk get with body lifts. If was goind do that guess one would need to separate the two parts of the shift lever and slip the tip of this inverted boot over the lever portion that #1 fits over, then soft hammer the upper part of shift lever back on. Assuming this is the one that causes shifter issues with body lifts. might need to drill new holes to screw it down. .

Can anyone verify if it is boot #2 that is the or one of the culprits that make TJ's pop out of gear with body lifts?

UPdate... this would help. Appears its only beyond 1.25" body lift that #2 starts becoming part of the popping out of gear thing... apparently it is mostly #3 though
 
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ohhh there is THREE boots.

  1. on the trans shift tower (one version round, other square)
  2. one on tub. apparently that is for keeping heat out of cab. THINK this one is the one notorious for pushing shifter out of gear if you have a big body lift (which I do 3") or it is the next one (or both)
  3. upper in cab held in with a plastic surround that clips into center console.
hmmm.. wonder #2 above can be inverted to help with the pop out of gear issue folk get with body lifts. If was goind do that guess one would need to separate the two parts of the shift lever and slip the tip of this inverted boot over the lever portion that #1 fits over, then soft hammer the upper part of shift lever back on. Assuming this is the one that causes shifter issues with body lifts. might need to drill new holes to screw it down. .

Can anyone verify if it is boot #2 that is the or one of the culprits that make TJ's pop out of gear with body lifts?

UPdate... scratch that #2 is part of the popping out of gear thing... apparently that is all #3

Both 2 and 3 can cause popping out of gear. 2 is the one that’s discontinued for 03-04 and ends up having to be a jack job unless you can find a good used one. Though most of them by now have been subject to enough hot and cold that they are falling apart regardless.
 
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ohhh there is THREE boots.

  1. on the trans shift tower (one version round, other square)

I think all the trans shift tower boots themselves are round.

Consider this photo of a dirty old nsg370 and a brand new AX15 side by side...both have small round boots on the towers. the nv3550 is similar.

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Both 2 and 3 can cause popping out of gear. 2 is the one that’s discontinued for 03-04 and ends up having to be a jack job unless you can find a good used one. Though most of them by now have been subject to enough hot and cold that they are falling apart regardless.
Got a brand new #2 .

what did they go to after they discontinued that one?

ordered a new #1
 

Not sure I'm following what you're trying to show me. That post has a photo of a (square) shift tower with a round boot #1 on its top, and then a photo of a round boot #2 from a 97-02 TJ.

This is a nv3550 shift tower from a TJ, on eBay. I guess the footprint of the boot might be a sort of bloated square? Hard to tell from the angle of the photo.

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If yours is an 04 it should have had the discontinued boot from post 25. If you don't mind a little light fabrication, you can marry your 97-02 round boot onto the surround like I did with my 06 (I did not follow the original orientation of the boot).

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I don't have a great picture of that boot in OE usage but this one from my 99 would give you an idea of the orientation.

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Not sure I'm following what you're trying to show me. That post has a photo of a (square) shift tower with a round boot #1 on its top, and then a photo of a round boot #2 from a 97-02 TJ.
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we said same thing in a different way... the boot on square tower pictured has a rounded rubber portion; yes, but that was not i refereed to. Was referring to the housing construction ... AKA- if you remove the boot... nothing in the construction of the black tower's "housing's" shape is round. It is as you called it a "Bloated Square" shaped housing.

On the transmissions pictured earlier .... the tower's housings.... are designed as "round tube" like thang; Unlike one you pictured (and mine) are.
 
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If yours is an 04 it should have had the discontinued boot from post 25. If you don't mind a little light fabrication, you can marry your 97-02 round boot onto the surround like I did with my 06 (I did not follow the original orientation of the boot)....

is photo in 25 the thing upside down.. or was the earlier ones a funnel like that?

Due to my 3" body lift... not sure I can use #2 in your (and others) Fabri-crafted way cause it is said in general #2 tends to be part of the "pop out of gear" issue with more than 1.25" body lifted TJ's. Thus what I fabri-craft will need to be different to avoid that; hense the idea of mounting it inverted
 
is photo in 25 the thing upside down.. or was the earlier ones a funnel like that?

Due to my 3" body lift... not sure I can use #2 in your (and others) Fabri-crafted way cause it is said in general #2 tends to be part of the "pop out of gear" issue with more than 1.25" body lifted TJ's. Thus what I fabri-craft will need to be different to avoid that; hense the idea of mounting it inverted

The photo in post 25 is exactly how you would see it looking down at it, sitting in the vehicle. It's kinda weird looking, yes. But as far as being tolerant to body lifts it's a pretty decent design...but there's a limit to everything.
 
The photo in post 25 is exactly how you would see it looking down at it, sitting in the vehicle. It's kinda weird looking, yes. But as far as being tolerant to body lifts it's a pretty decent design...but there's a limit to everything.

Interesting.. kinda supports my idea of turning the one I have upside down
 
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