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That does look really clean, so if it looks that way in person - that's some decent bonus.

The balance of the arms is an interesting thought process. Too steep (short arms) you get hop and lose traction. Too shallow you get front end lift. Try to imagine the thrust vector and how the jeep would rotate around whatever that is with the rear arms pointing at a center point as the lines extend.

While this is imperfect, I think about it as if there's a radius that the rear triangle makes until they intersect - this is the center of a circle. If it's steep, traction is lost because the thrust vector and weight balance are in a smaller circle and more "up". If it's flat the thrust vector and weight shift to make a much larger circle and is more "forward" toward the center, which causes front end lift (which is especially prevalent on steep climbs).

The math is cool here if you want to just talk circles ignoring anything else about a jeep. A 9" pizza is only 63.62sq" while a 10" pizza is 78.54sq" (which is 23% more, despite only being 11% larger diameter). That is to say, 1" diameter of this circle seems small, but it really isn't. Flattening the arm angle (longer and longer arms) is increasing the diameter of the pizza.

Everything you understand about your suspension applies here. The immediate tell about the control arms is the lack of vertical separation on both ends on both the frame sides and the axle sides.
 
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Here’s a video that doesn’t probably add a lot more insight, but maybe it does.

 
Here’s a video that doesn’t probably add a lot more insight, but maybe it does.


Many of the rigs you were with on Pritchet that were outperforming the red jeep, despite their lack of extravagance, have the underpinnings of a solid build for 35s. If what you care about is performance, then you need to understand what that was. Then use that to inform your wants and desires.
 
I wish. But if I’m simply calculating what I would spend to put the axles under my jeep with a front half kit, with wheels and tires - assuming I get top dollar for my wheels, tires, and axles (which I probably won’t) I’m still going to be over the price point of this one - without accounting for time or labor.

I’ll admit, this is the easy way out.

You often can buy a modded vehicle cheaper than building the same , IF the mods were built correctly , go for it . Chris brings up a good point , try to push a little on price . This Jeep is a limited market vehicle , it's not a daily driver and someone can't get a loan for the Jeep at that price . I hope you get what you're looking for !
 
So, I hadn’t planned on flying out here yesterday when I woke up. I happened to have space in my schedule to make it happen last minute, like I literally bought a ticket, drove to the airport and got on my plane.

I randomly reached out to a friend out here I hadn’t seen in a few years. Forgot he was in the area. He picked me up, is hosting me at his place and we got a few days of fun stuff up.

Even if the Jeep turns out to be a bust, I got a great few days with a good friend. Helps me go into viewing the Jeep as a secondary thing.

So worse case, I took a day off to rock climbing with a friend and catch up. Bonus points to him for driving me around and giving me a place to crash too!
 
Update. I bought it. I didn’t bother haggling him down anymore. I’m beyond happy with the buy. It drove great, was as clean as the photos suggest. Talked through the build for a few hours on decisions they made and why they were made that way. Also had decent road manners for being full hydro on 40’s.

Shipper didn’t show up though…
I’ll be much happier when it makes it home in one piece.
 
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It hurts my brain that a nice stock(?) TJ was undone and built like that, rather than one that was already past the point of bad mods that would have been chucked aside for the build.

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Update. I bought it. I didn’t bother haggling him down anymore. I’m beyond happy with the buy. It drove great, was as clean as the photos suggest. Talked through the build for a few hours on decisions they made and why they were made that way. Also had decent road manners for being full hydro on 40’s.

Shipper didn’t show up though…
I’ll be much happier when it makes it home in one piece.

Congratulations. Way to move!
 
I bought my TJ in California and had it shipped to where I live in Connecticut in 2019, and it was a PITA then. I've heard it has become even more of a nightmare. My friend bought a BMW E39 M5 last year in Virginia, and shipping it back became such a nightmare we just drove down and got it instead. Definitely call around, a lot of these shipping companies are just dispatches that send out bids to the cheapest guy with a car hauler. Good luck!
 
The take away from this is to follow your heart. ❤️

In the milsurp world this would be a bubba job.

Edit: Do not mistake me, I am cool with mods, but stock TJs in great condition become more and more rare. At least it was not hacked into one of the lowrider wranglers I've seen.
 
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I bought my TJ in California and had it shipped to where I live in Connecticut in 2019, and it was a PITA then. I've heard it has become even more of a nightmare. My friend bought a BMW E39 M5 last year in Virginia, and shipping it back became such a nightmare we just drove down and got it instead. Definitely call around, a lot of these shipping companies are just dispatches that send out bids to the cheapest guy with a car hauler. Good luck!

It will cost a bit more, but with the large tires being able to drive up onto a trailer. He may consider a dedicated hot shot to transport the Jeep.
 
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