Piss & Moan Table
- Thread starter Farmergreg
- Start date
When you get a phone app AA-12 then get back to us .
“I prefer to fire two blasts from my double barrel”
How old is yours? I don't see the point of the whole PHOOOOOONNE thing as you know well, but it makes less than zero sense to have it connected to "the cloud" - apparently THROUGH the "App" - I think the bed connects to the smartphone via BlueTooth.
If memory serves, the remote was actually wired in on those hotel SleepNumbers years back.
I call it a nuisance and a needless expense. My robotic vacuum does its job just fine without a PHOOOOOONNE or internet connectivity. I never even connected it to WiFi. Installed a new Chamberlain garage door opener for my tenant - same deal. The only thing that pissed me off there was a QR code for the installation manual. I don't mind these stupid features as long as I can ignore them, but EXPECTING me to have a PHOOOOOONNE just frosts my cajones. I had to drive home, go to their website, and print out pertinent portions of the install manual to figure out how to assemble the thing. Oh, and the opener DID have a pay-for-it subscription to the cloud. Fortunately, I was able to ignore the whole thing.
Under certain circumstances, that may very well make sense. What doesn't make sense is when many of these things work ONLY with a damn smartphone. My COMPUTER has 5 screens, I would want something like this displayed in the corner of one of them. Unlikely an option, its all about the PHOOOOOONNE for a variety of bad reasons. I guess I could always run a sandboxed Android emulator - I understand that they work pretty well these days.
Got my first sleep number in 2010.
Got the second one as a tester for sleep number in 2017 and that’s the one I have now.
They both came with wireless remotes.
Mine was connected to the internet while they were paying me to test it and hasn’t been connected since they weren’t.
Only reason I use the app now is because I don’t know where the remotes went and if I had it o. The nightstand the 2 year old would make sure it was lost anyway.
I’m sure hotels wired them or people would steal them.
We have a decently sized house. I’d hate to have to carry my computer and a monitor everywhere with me so I could look at our cameras anytime I want. I don’t care about the chickens but my security cameras also display on the phone so garage and driveway and such.
That's a good point, but it may have just been the state of the tech back then - this was sometime in the very early aughts as I recall. Actually, you bring up a good point - remotes for everything. A wired remote or even control panel would be just fine. We have a mini-split A/C in our family room. It has a stupid remote. It lives in a caddy on the side of the A/C where we press its buttons in place. Why not just put the damn buttons on the unit? Then I wouldn't be changing batteries 2X a year.
Tech has devolved. My father actually had a voice actuated TV back in the late 60s!
My computer is steps from the MBR - so give me the option to use it. But no, its all about the PHOOOOOONNE. I wouldn't want to have to be chained to the damn thing - or have to go find it - and have to call up the necessary "App" to look at the cameras on that tiney screen - one or two at a time I'm sure. If the damn cameras multicast, they should be usable by anything. If I felt I needed access to the video stream elsewhere, I'd employ a small laptop left in place "where ever". Please tell me you don't spool this to the cloud...
I bought a digital photo frame a couple of years ago. They want you to push pix to it via a - paid of course - cloud subscription with a PHOOOOOONNE. The fucking thing is based ultimately on Linux - which means it has the capability of running an on-board web page or even just an FTP server - either of which would permit ANYTHING on my local network to push pictures to it, even smartphones. But no, cloud service and smartphone required for that functionality. I just transfer pix to it with a geek stick. Its all about the PHOOOOOONNE, and sucking money out of my wallet rather than making their product a full network citizen with tools already built into the operating system. Its just exasperating how short sighted people and companies are.
You may remember the old MBZ getting sideswiped back in 2022 - possibly by a PHOOOOOONNE distracted driver. Talking to the gal at Progressive, she asked me if I had a smartphone (!!). When she found out I didn't, she said that it was unfortunate because I could have taken some pictures with it and uploaded them to their website.WTF? It's now so much all about the PHOOOOOONNE, that people can't comprehend any other way to perform a task like this. Needless to say, I took several good, clear photos with my DSLR, and uploaded them to the insurance company's website, no smartphone needed!
They are handy for documenting that kind of thing. Even better if time, date and GPS stamps are active.
So is a DSLR, but even my flip takes pictures decent enough for that use.
No just stoking the fire
Maybe. But It's more likely that I'd have my cell phone with me than a DSLR camera as I'm not a pro photog...and I often leave home without the phone. I would question the photo resolution of your flip phone if it's based on older tech as well.
To be clear, your flip phone is a cell phone, just not technically smart...for the part facing you, anyway. While you might have little concern for apps on that kind of phone, there's still software in play and the thing is still identifying quite a bit about you and your activities. I do have a smart phone but it's older and I can control just about anything on it with permissions to a level at which I'm giving up little more than you are with your flip phone. I'm not sure if you're actually gaining much with your device.
I do understand where you're coming from, for sure, just not convinced the phone you're using is doing you any favors.
I too often forget the phone at home. Driving a 41 year old car makes that a less than ideal habit - then add to that the way these fools drive down here...
About the only thing the flip can telemeter is my location via triangulation. If I cared, I'd turn it off. If I *REALLY* cared, I'd remove the battery too. There's no Internet, no bluetooth, etc, etc.
But my main objection to the smartphone isn't even really spying - although that *is* of considerable concern. My main objection is that its just an expensive toy that doesn't do very much particularly well of the many things it can do - its a spork or a Gerber tool. Everything it can do, can be generally done better and cheaper by something else. "Something else" in my case is a Kindle, a computer, a DSLR, and a trio of Garmin GPSes. I just don't see the point of the thing - I thought it was pointless and overpriced in 2007, and I still think so today. A mediocre phone and a HORRID computer as I like to say. Having to constantly fiddle with the damn thing is my idea of Hell and inconvenience.
If you REALLY cared...you wouldn't own one at all.
That said, regarding surveillance it's somewhat irrelevant unless you live rurally and never travel in urban or suburban areas. Between government/leo/public cameras and personal doorbell/security cameras, there's record of almost everything you do outside of your house anyway, cell data is just icing on the cake.True to many of those points, but you aren't going to carry all that shit around with you daily, while many will carry a cell phone. That's kind of the point. It's the "C" word, convenience. But for sure, I'm with you on the Kindle and computer and I do have a decent camera for taking proper photos, but the latter is not very handy when I want to document something on Tess to post up here or save for later visual reference. Oh, and I still have an MP3 player (mainly for car stereo aux in), don't use the phone for that, either.
Again, I'm not a fanboy of the blasted things in general, I find them to have very limited usage personally, but what I do use is quite helpful and would require me to manage multiple devices and other tools without. I do find the fact that so many people seem to be completely dependent on them somewhat disturbing, but I suppose I could say something similar about a lot of society's bullshit trends.
Trust me, I'm highly annoyed that I even have to carry the flip - but when was the last time you saw a payphone? They used to be everywhere, I had an AT&T card that I'd punch in its number and off I went. But no more. I don't do doorbell/security cameras - at least not as yet - if/when I do, they'll be completely local in operation.If you REALLY cared...you wouldn't own one at all.
I don't need to carry ANY of that shit around with me - that's the whole idea. The Garmins live in their respective cars permanently. I really don't need to take pictures "in the field" on a regular basis, if I just have to because of an accident, I do have the flip. However, I've never felt the need even then. Documenting something on my Jeep or whatever - which I do constantly - I just use one of my DSLRs, that's what I have them for. So I'm not stuck carrying anything around other than the flip and my wallet, and I really wish I could dispense with the flip. Oh, and much of the time, I have my dance bag with me as most of my "out and about" has to do with dance classes. Said bag has a "little secret pocket" that I can fill with all sorts of "good but heavy things".
Only exactly ONE of my dance sisters understood why the bag has a line drawing of a deer with antlers - she just started cracking up.As for music, I mostly use geek sticks which plug into the car stereo, although two of them still have CD players, but those don't get used much. Using a PHOOOOOONNE for music in the car - or anywhere else for that matter - is the height of stupidity as far as I'm concerned.
Here we go, this was called to my attention:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...-sleepers-hot-and-bothered-during-aws-outage/
Glad I didn't buy one of these! And check the subscription charges. All this fun and they get to pay for it too.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...-sleepers-hot-and-bothered-during-aws-outage/
Glad I didn't buy one of these! And check the subscription charges. All this fun and they get to pay for it too.
Last edited:
Similar threads
