Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ engine mounts

Rear Main Seal SOLVED - Additional Tips, Tricks, Thoughts and Theories

What oil pan gasket did you use? Thanks

I know you’re not asking me, but mine is bone dry and I used the fel-pro gasket. Ever since covid, I believe fel-pro may have switched where they produced the gasket, and so many if not all of them are gray now. People used to swear by the old blue one, so I heard some skepticism about the new gray one. All I can say is mine is bone dry after 6 weeks. Not a long time, but any serious problems with the gasket would have allowed a leak by now.
 
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I'd also document your bearing numbers and check the tightness of your timing chain. I changed my oil pump too.

Great write up and I too did several FelPros until a Mopar did it... however a recent 1600 mile trip to Canada and back down the WABDR ended up with some slight drippage. Air temps were in the high 90s...water temp was mostly 212 with an occasional needle width over. Injectors got hot enough for heat soak and oil temps got hot enough...IMHO...to cook out some of the anereboic sealant.

-Mac

Just a FYI, my Mopar seal has been holding through two AZ summers that included many road trips in 115*+ heat.

I only use synthetic Redline 5W30 for the turbo, and the seal withstood my ECTs reaching 250* when my water pump failed two summers ago.

Per OP's suggestion, I let the rig sit for 24 hours with the rear raised up (in case it helps).

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When u applied anoreobic sealant is it just the 2 little lines of it all you did? The shop manual has 2 steps for where to apply it but the diagram only shows the 2 lines of it
 
When u applied anoreobic sealant is it just the 2 little lines of it all you did? The shop manual has 2 steps for where to apply it but the diagram only shows the 2 lines of it
I direct messaged the OP. His reply is below. I followed this thread to a "T" when I did my rear main seal in April. So far it's held up.

"Hi Rancho LJ,

I didn't put any on the cylinder block, just a bit more on the bearing cap to compensate. So it was probably closer to a 5mm bead.

Good luck!

Ps. My RMS is still bone dry to this day 😁."
 
I direct messaged the OP. His reply is below. I followed this thread to a "T" when I did my rear main seal in April. So far it's held up.

"Hi Rancho LJ,

I didn't put any on the cylinder block, just a bit more on the bearing cap to compensate. So it was probably closer to a 5mm bead.

Good luck!

Ps. My RMS is still bone dry to this day 😁."

Got it. I will just do the same then. Makes sense to only put it on the bearing cap because of gravity. What did you use to clean the upper seal location? I’m worried a blue shop towel will rip as I thread it through
 
What did you use to clean the upper seal location?

In the upper seal seat position, I use the little square cloths for cleaning gun barrels soaked with Free All penetrating oil followed by brake cleaner and compressed air. I used brake cleaner on the sealing surfaces before applying anaerobic sealant.
 
What is the MOPAR part number?

Dan,

I know you're asking the op, but I don't know if he posts here often. He did respond to my DM back in April.

Search for "Crankshaft Seal Package". It may not pop up right away if you search for rear main seal. I originally bought a Felpro gasket and decided to go with the Mopar instead. I'm 99% sure this is the correct part. Since I picked it up from the dealer I don't have a record of it anymore. I think I paid about $80 because needed it quick.

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For what it's worth, the toughest part for me was reattaching the exhaust to the exhaust manifold. You need a super long extension for the back side from underneath. Trying to start the bolt from the bottom while the retaining clip/nut (sorry I don't know what they're called) moved was a p i t a. Make sure you have someone to assist you with that part. They can hang on to that clip from the top side while you start the bolt.

Also, when I dropped my transmission skid plate, there was a bit of rust between the skid plate and frame rails. It was a bit of a surprise since it's a California Jeep with low miles that's always been garaged. I wire wheeled away the rust, refinished it, and I installed it with a couple of half inch washers between each mounting bolt so there's no water retention there.

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In the upper seal seat position, I use the little square cloths for cleaning gun barrels soaked with Free All penetrating oil followed by brake cleaner and compressed air. I used brake cleaner on the sealing surfaces before applying anaerobic sealant.

How did you feed them through
 
Yeah... you can use a chopstick or other composite tool that won't scratch the sealing surface or groove to push the seal far enough through to grab the other end with pliers. It would also help to push out the old seal if it's stuck.

Why did you use penetrating oil out of curiosity?
 
For what it's worth, the toughest part for me was reattaching the exhaust to the exhaust manifold. You need a super long extension for the back side from underneath. Trying to start the bolt from the bottom while the retaining clip/nut (sorry I don't know what they're called) moved was a p i t a. Make sure you have someone to assist you with that part. They can hang on to that clip from the top side while you start the bolt.

Also, when I dropped my transmission skid plate, there was a bit of rust between the skid plate and frame rails. It was a bit of a surprise since it's a California Jeep with low miles that's always been garaged. I wire wheeled away the rust, refinished it, and I installed it with a couple of half inch washers between each mounting bolt so there's no water retention there.

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For what it's worth, the toughest part for me was reattaching the exhaust to the exhaust manifold. You need a super long extension for the back side from underneath. Trying to start the bolt from the bottom while the retaining clip/nut (sorry I don't know what they're called) moved was a p i t a. Make sure you have someone to assist you with that part. They can hang on to that clip from the top side while you start the bolt.

Also, when I dropped my transmission skid plate, there was a bit of rust between the skid plate and frame rails. It was a bit of a surprise since it's a California Jeep with low miles that's always been garaged. I wire wheeled away the rust, refinished it, and I installed it with a couple of half inch washers between each mounting bolt so there's no water retention there.

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That’s nothing. Mine looked way worse when I pulled the skid plate off last summer to replace my transmission mount, install savvy shift linkage and front driveshaft removal. If I was you I’d spray some wool wax or apply grease prior to reinstalling the skid plate

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Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ engine mounts