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Taking My Time – Looking for a Reasonable Summer Setup

OffroadTreks

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Hey folks,

I’ve been reading a ton of threads around here and I think I’m starting to get a sense of where I want to take my TJ build. I know asking for opinions online is a great way to end up with sand in your teeth, but here I am anyway.

Let me ramble for a sec.

Back when I had my JL Rubicon, I only owned it for about a month before joining a local Jeep club and hitting some trails. I got hung up on everything, got annoyed, and immediately threw on 37s and a Metalcloak 3.5” short arm lift. Honestly, I didn’t know what I was doing. Next time out, I tackled even harder stuff… and hated it. It just felt sketchy and unsettled off-camber.

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Looking back, I realize I didn’t take the time to learn that Jeep. With my Power Wagon, I’ve wheeled it from stock 33s all the way to 40s over the years. I know that truck’s limits inside and out because I grew with it.

So with this TJ, I’m taking a different approach. Slower, more intentional. Year 1, Year 2, Year 3—build it in stages, learn as I go.

Right now, here’s the setup: The previous owner slapped 33s on it with a 2” spacer lift up front. Visually? I like it. Ride height feels good too. But it flexes like a brick. I barely got it onto a dirt road and the rear tire tried to eat the fender. This is the dirt road 👇

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My plan is to stick with the 33s for at least two years before stepping up to 35s. I run Kings with custom valving on my truck and I know that’s the direction I eventually want to go with the Jeep—but that’s a longer-term process, not a click-and-ship thing.

Most of the trails I plan to hit around Idaho are mellow day trips. Think Colorado’s Alpine Loop—Engineer Pass, Cinnamon, Ophir. Shale roads, scenic stuff. The real crawling out here is mostly buggy territory, and that’s not me. If there’s an in-between trail scene here, I haven’t found it after 10 years.

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So here’s what I’m looking for: a smart intermediary step. Something to fix the fender-eating issue and give me a little flex for this summer’s trail rides. I’m not looking for a 6” lift that forces me into an SYE, double cardan driveshaft, etc. Just something that works for now, while I get to know this Jeep and figure out how I want to build it long term.

Also, minor rubbing doesn't bother me. My KM3's have been rubbing the sway bars and radius arms for 5yrs on the truck and I don't care. What I don't want is things getting torn off. I know some people want to avoid any and all rub. Eh... whatever.

Suggestions welcome.
 
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Hey folks,

I’ve been reading a ton of threads around here and I think I’m starting to get a sense of where I want to take my TJ build. I know asking for opinions online is a great way to end up with sand in your teeth, but here I am anyway.

Let me ramble for a sec.

Back when I had my JL Rubicon, I only owned it for about a month before joining a local Jeep club and hitting some trails. I got hung up on everything, got annoyed, and immediately threw on 37s and a Metalcloak 3.5” short arm lift. Honestly, I didn’t know what I was doing. Next time out, I tackled even harder stuff… and hated it. It just felt sketchy and unsettled off-camber.

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Looking back, I realize I didn’t take the time to learn that Jeep. With my Power Wagon, I’ve wheeled it from stock 33s all the way to 40s over the years. I know that truck’s limits inside and out because I grew with it.

So with this TJ, I’m taking a different approach. Slower, more intentional. Year 1, Year 2, Year 3—build it in stages, learn as I go.

Right now, here’s the setup: The previous owner slapped 33s on it with a 2” spacer lift up front. Visually? I like it. Ride height feels good too. But it flexes like a brick. I barely got it onto a dirt road and the rear tire tried to eat the fender. This is the dirt road 👇

View attachment 619083

My plan is to stick with the 33s for at least two years before stepping up to 35s. I run Kings with custom valving on my truck and I know that’s the direction I eventually want to go with the Jeep—but that’s a longer-term process, not a click-and-ship thing.

Most of the trails I plan to hit around Idaho are mellow day trips. Think Colorado’s Alpine Loop—Engineer Pass, Cinnamon, Ophir. Shale roads, scenic stuff. The real crawling out here is mostly buggy territory, and that’s not me. If there’s an in-between trail scene here, I haven’t found it after 10 years.

View attachment 619084

So here’s what I’m looking for: a smart intermediary step. Something to fix the fender-eating issue and give me a little flex for this summer’s trail rides. I’m not looking for a 6” lift that forces me into an SYE, double cardan driveshaft, etc. Just something that works for now, while I get to know this Jeep and figure out how I want to build it long term.

Also, minor rubbing doesn't bother me. My KM3's have been rubbing the sway bars and radius arms for 5yrs on the truck and I don't care. What I don't want is things getting torn off. I know some people want to avoid any and all rub. Eh... whatever.

Suggestions welcome.

For 33’s you need a 4” lift and set your bump stops correctly to keep your tires out of the fender.

For 35’s you can just add a 1.25” body lift when you are ready.

This is the best way to grow from a 33’s build to a 35’s build without having to re-do a lot of things.

You will need an SYE and DC shaft and rear control arms to go straight to a 4” lift and 33’s, but it is all part of the program.
 
Yeah... thats kind of what I figured.

Had spent time starting here: https://wranglertjforum.com/threads/a-recipe-for-an-affordable-but-quality-2-5-lift.41687/ but the tire sizes there are smaller.

And then as I dug around the forum more on the topic of 33's & 35's the usual suggestion was 4 inches. But it seems like over 3 inches you really need to start accounting for other stuff. Track bars, pinion angles, etc.

I guess the question I should ask myself is, do I want to do this the RIGHT way or am I going to half ass it and break shit?
 
So here’s what I’m looking for: a smart intermediary step. Something to fix the fender-eating issue and give me a little flex for this summer’s trail rides. I’m not looking for a 6” lift that forces me into an SYE, double cardan driveshaft, etc. Just something that works for now, while I get to know this Jeep and figure out how I want to build it long term.

Zone 4.25" combo lift with Rancho RS5000X shocks. Oops, wrong pic.
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