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"No bus" but can be tricked

bayer

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Hello everyone, thank you for accepting me into your forum.

I own a 2005 Wrangler TJ Sahara with the 4.0 liter I6 engine and NSG370 6-speed manual transmission. I’ve had the "no bus" error sporadically for almost two years now. It has always resolved itself in the past, usually without any known reason for the solution. However, recently I’ve been getting this error and can’t seem to fix it. I’ve already tried removing the console, spraying WD-40 on the odometer contacts behind the dash, and reassembling it; disconnecting all the connectors (camshaft sensor, throttle position sensor, oxygen sensors, etc.) to see how it behaves without the connected sensors, but without success. I’ve also cleaned and checked all the grounds in the engine compartment, driver’s cabin, and passenger cabin. As soon as I turn the key to the "ON" position, I get the "no bus" error after a few seconds, along with the illuminated indicators. The error codes I was able to read are P0513, U0155, and U0168, which are mostly related to the SKIM (Sentry Key Immobilizer Module). I’ve also tried the spare key and treated all the connectors under the steering wheel with contact spray.

The interesting thing is: The car starts and drives – if you’re quick enough, the immobilizer doesn’t have time to engage and stall the engine - but you dont have any dash information since the no bus error. However, when you turn the key from the "ON" position (both with the engine running and when stationary) to the "START" position, all the indicators come on, and you hear a click in the turn signal relay under the steering wheel. If I let the key return from the "START" position to "ON", the indicators go out again. I initially thought it might be related to the radio, air conditioning, or something similar, since these systems are turned off in the "START" position. Unfortunately, just replacing the fuse in the glove compartment doesn’t seem to help. The ignition switch also doesn't seem to be the problem..

I’m really at a loss and hope someone has an idea of what the issue might be.

Thank you and have a great week!
 
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You should check the 32 pin wiring harness connectors on the ECU ?
Disconnect and inspect for greyish or greenish oxidation on the pins and clips along with signs of overheating....
Ensure you firmly reinsert the harness connectors into the ECU receptacles.
 
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You should check the 32 pin wiring harness connectors on the ECU ?
Disconnect and inspect for greyish or greenish oxidation on the pins and clips along with signs of overheating....
Ensure you firmly reinsert the harness connectors into the ECU receptacles.

Hey Charles. Thanks for your quick reply.
I already did the reseating process of the wiring harness connectors on the ECU and put dielectric grease onto all three of them.
Sure enough, that didn't help either.
 
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You should contact Mark @Wranglerfix
The 05/06 EcUs are known to have problems.
Mark is our resident forum ECU guru who assists members to resolve ECU problems.

Thanks for the advice! I hoped I would be safe with my manual tranny, since i read that mostly the automatic tranny PCMs are faulty, but maybe I'm wrong..

@bayer It sounds like your pcm has failed you. Has the jeep stumbled or died while driving?

Thanks for your reply, wranglerfix.

No, the Jeep never stumbled or died while driving. It still drives like a charm without any gauges and displaying "no bus".
It passed inspections without any problems (which contain a emissions test in Germany) just a month ago.
One thing I had after passing the inspections was a MIL pointing me to the 1/1 downstream lambda sensor. But after a week and before I could change out the still OEM sensor for a NTK one, the code went away.
 
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You can send me an email to mark@Wranglerfix.com with your shipping details and vin. We will get you a price programmed and delivered to you.

Thanks,

Mark

Hey Mark,

again thanks for your reply. I wrote you an email but haven't heard back from you since.

I just came back from vacation after disconnecting the battery and now my Radio is even asking me for code, which it never did in the 20 years I own the Jeep.

Thanks
 
Hey Mark,

again thanks for your reply. I wrote you an email but haven't heard back from you since.

I just came back from vacation after disconnecting the battery and now my Radio is even asking me for code, which it never did in the 20 years I own the Jeep.

Thanks

I'd suspect your original message might have gotten sorted as spam or something. I've never dealt with him personally, but from what I've seen here many times (every time, really), @Wranglerfix is excellent about getting back to folks and getting them sorted. I'm sure he'll be along in a few hours (only 4am on US east coast at the moment) with a response. (y)
 
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Hey Mark,

again thanks for your reply. I wrote you an email but haven't heard back from you since.

I just came back from vacation after disconnecting the battery and now my Radio is even asking me for code, which it never did in the 20 years I own the Jeep.

Thanks

What is your email address please?
 
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Hey @Wranglerfix I see so many folks applying dielectric grease and in this case wd40 in their connectors? Correct me if I’m wrong this has got to be a huge mistake? I’ve seen some similar grease in light bulb sockets I’m thinking to prevent water intrusion and corrosion but in a can bus circuit it seems wrong.
Would appreciate your opinion.
 
Hey @Wranglerfix I see so many folks applying dielectric grease and in this case wd40 in their connectors? Correct me if I’m wrong this has got to be a huge mistake? I’ve seen some similar grease in light bulb sockets I’m thinking to prevent water intrusion and corrosion but in a can bus circuit it seems wrong.
Would appreciate your opinion.

It is nothing more than a gimmick. You ever see a new car coated with it? Neither have I.
 
folks applying dielectric grease

It is nothing more than a gimmick. You ever see a new car coated with it? Neither have I.

Seems many use this ON the contacts. I was always under the impression dielectric grease was to be used on electrical plug and boot connections, as it helps seal, repel moisture and electrically insulate. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Seems many use this ON the contacts. I was always under the impression dielectric grease was to be used on electrical plug and boot connections, as it helps seal, repel moisture and electrically insulate. 🤷‍♂️

I've seen plug wires that had too much dielectric grease attract dust and then start miss firing due to the spark discharging to ground through the dust .
Just a kiss of grease inside the boot is Okay , but folks aren't happy until they apply it with a 4" brush like they're painting a deck. :rolleyes:
 
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