Savvy off-road sold? (the unofficial Savvy customer support and Savvy rant thread)

Wasn't there a very specific reason they stopped doing that back in the day?

The reason the flats are not needed and should not be there is to prevent people from adjusting the arms into a bind with a wrench.

When required to adjust the length by hand, you can easily feel the bind as it develops and correct it. The result is a better setup that isn't fighting itself.
 
The reason the flats are not needed and should not be there is to prevent people from adjusting the arms into a bind with a wrench.

When required to adjust the length by hand, you can easily feel the bind as it develops and correct it. The result is a better setup that isn't fighting itself.

Right... Isn't that why they stopped putting the flats on in the first place, because using a wrench on them was causing binding or stripping threads?
 
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Right... Isn't that why they stopped putting the flats on in the first place, because using a wrench on them was causing binding or stripping threads?

The reason is to prevent binding and, to the extreme, stripping. Mine from the very first production run did not have flats. Nor have the two other later kits I have seen in person. I have a vague memory of the short arms having flats for a brief moment. The reasons against wrench flats applies there, as well.
 
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The reason is to prevent binding and, to the extreme extreme, stripping. Mine from the very first production run did not have flats. Nor have the two other later kits I have seen in person. I have a vague memory of the short arms having flats for a brief moment. The reasons against wrench flats applies there, as well.

Ok yeah. I thought I had read they once came with flats then stopped machining them for flats because there was no good reason to need them. But maybe not.
 
Ok yeah. I thought I had read they once came with flats then stopped machining them for flats because there was no good reason to need them. But maybe not.

It is safe to say that Blaine understood, long before there ever was a Savvy midarm, that there is no value and only an avoidable detriment to having wrench flats. These are tech discussions surrounding control arm setup that have been going on for a very long time.
 
Waited 3 years to finally pull trigger on everything.......guess I will wait longer
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Fyi: That hand written note from Gerald is photocopied...... How many are you shipping like this that it makes sense to photocopy that note?!

You actually got instructions :whistle: wow. I got stickers though :)
 
I’m just surprised the Johnny joints and arms aren’t embossed or laser cut with their logo, as with everything else they redesigned. How the mighty have fallen…
 
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UPDATE: THEY'RE HERE, guess I can't complain too much. No wrench flats on mine, and no stickers, but still here before the weekend
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Good to know they lied about it being 1/4" and it is still 3/16" but without the added rigidity of a separate winch plate and not a 90° rear flange.

Edit: I'm wrong. They've changed it to be 3/16" aluminum skin with an added steel winch plate and still not a 90° rear flange.
They must have figured out the welded winch plate was a bad idea.
 
Waited 3 years to finally pull trigger on everything.......guess I will wait longer
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Fyi: That hand written note from Gerald is photocopied...... How many are you shipping like this that it makes sense to photocopy that note?!

Well mine are supposed to be here Friday so we'll see.