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I wouldn't call them sketchier, they are mostly just two track trails with no obstacles. Now if people could understand the difference between a hard trail and a trail that has a high consequence if you don't pay attention, then this conversation would be done.

That's more what I meant but my brain at 0500 couldn't think of how to phrase it. They're very different styles of wheeling that you can't really compare, at least not like this.
 
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Black Bear Pass is not tough at all, like @hosejockey61 said, a driver just needs to pay attention. Most of the trails in the San Juans and Uncompahgres are groomed trails with just amazing scenery that can catch one off guard if they're not paying attention.
 
Black Bear Pass is not tough at all, like @hosejockey61 said, a driver just needs to pay attention. Most of the trails in the San Juans and Uncompahgres are groomed trails with just amazing scenery that can catch one off guard if they're not paying attention.

You'll also want to make sure your rig is in good working order.

It's not a tough trail but it can be dangerous.
 
I think technical difficulty (i.e. obstacles) and “pucker” factor are both relevant to considering how “tough” a trail is. The ratings for hiking/climbing incorporate both.

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I think technical difficulty (i.e. obstacles) and “pucker” factor are both relevant to considering how “tough” a trail is. The ratings for hiking/climbing incorporate both.

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I agree, but I also think that the climbing rating systems tend to be very relative. A 5.10 climb for a tall person might be more like a 5.11 or even 5.12 climb for a shorter person. I do see what you mean though when it comes to mountaineering grades like class 1, 2,3,or 4. I've had some very interesting conversations with people about the most subjective way to grade trails, routes, etc. There isn't really a perfect way to do it.
 
Any recommendations for campsites outside of Leadville? My buddy is racing in the Leadville 100 and I'm planning on watching him/watch him at a a checkpoint or 2, fish the Ark, and then watch him finish.
This is where I'm thinking currently. https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/psicc/recarea/?recid=12538

The only place I know in that area is Weston Pass; my family had a cabin there when I was a kid. It may not be practical for you; I mention it for strictly sentimental reasons.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/psicc/recarea/?recid=12894
 
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Any recommendations for campsites outside of Leadville? My buddy is racing in the Leadville 100 and I'm planning on watching him/watch him at a a checkpoint or 2, fish the Ark, and then watch him finish.
This is where I'm thinking currently. https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/psicc/recarea/?recid=12538

If you can get on torquise lake, that's a beautiful spot. But otherwise I usually use freecampsites.net and find things nearby for dispersed camping when it's available.
 
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Nah, haven’t been to church since to 70s JR, i find God I the SanJuans. Go powder your nose on Loveland pass with you pickinik basket. Excuse me for bringing an update on real mountain passes. I’ll say it again, you front range tough guys crack me up, have a nice evenin.

this all escalated quickly
 
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If you can get on torquise lake, that's a beautiful spot. But otherwise I usually use freecampsites.net and find things nearby for dispersed camping when it's available.

That's what I was planning on, but every single site there is reserved already. Leadville is the largest MTB race in the world so I have a feeling any site close to the start is gonna be like that unfortunately.
 
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