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Yet another brake bleeding question

I wasn't ever going to risk driving it until fully tested. I am a newb with mechanical stuff. I am going to have a brake guy in my club check out everything when done.

I am an applied math guy for a living, but tend to figure out the over arching problem and miss a detail.

To be fair, I didn't originally put this kit on, I had my now retired shop do it so I never had the instructions for the calipers. I just watched YT videos and guess I glossed over the bit with the bleeders up top.

My wife is the 3 masters engineer.

Anyway, I swapped the calipers, bled with the motive power bleeder and now getting a firm pedal with engine on. I can push the brake with one hand and not being able to turn the fronts with the other.

Will get my step son to come over again and bleed manually so I have some faith.
 
I wasn't ever going to risk driving it until fully tested. I am a newb with mechanical stuff. I am going to have a brake guy in my club check out everything when done.

I am an applied math guy for a living, but tend to figure out the over arching problem and miss a detail.

To be fair, I didn't originally put this kit on, I had my now retired shop do it so I never had the instructions for the calipers. I just watched YT videos and guess I glossed over the bit with the bleeders up top.

My wife is the 3 masters engineer.

Anyway, I swapped the calipers, bled with the motive power bleeder and now getting a firm pedal with engine on. I can push the brake with one hand and not being able to turn the fronts with the other.

Will get my step son to come over again and bleed manually so I have some faith.
While not 100%, that does look like one of our kits and I'm glad to send you instructions to keep for reference provided we can identify it and it is in fact ours.
 
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While not 100%, that does look like one of our kits and I'm glad to send you instructions to keep for reference provided we can identify it and it is in fact ours.

Appreciate it! It is your kit on the fronts. However, it was nearing a decade ago I guess. I bought the replacement stuff from you last year. I just messed up on the reinstall. Not sure why I thought the air would come out on the bottom. I claim resident dunce.
 
Appreciate it! It is your kit on the fronts. However, it was nearing a decade ago I guess. I bought the replacement stuff from you last year. I just messed up on the reinstall. Not sure why I thought the air would come out on the bottom. I claim resident dunce.
Did you torque the caliper saddle to knuckle bolts after applying red Loctite?
 
Did you torque the caliper saddle to knuckle bolts after applying red Loctite?

Not yet, but planned to when I had confidence I had it right this time. The instructions from YT I followed showed that.
 
Just to follow up: I flipped the Calipers the right way and it was easy peasey bleeding and the brake pedal felt normal after that. I took it to a pro service shop and paid to have them look over my job telling them that I did it myself. They came back with it all looks good. So reading the instructions provided by Blaine, here in the forum, and his instructions that came with the brakes lead to me doing it right in the end.

I drove 125 miles (each way) to the trails on Saturday and 3.5 hours of moderately hard trails and all is good. [I checked the torque specs and the loctite beforehand and after to make sure].

I'll chock this up to being a knob, but at least I learned something and knew that something wasn't right.
 
Just to follow up: I flipped the Calipers the right way and it was easy peasey bleeding and the brake pedal felt normal after that. I took it to a pro service shop and paid to have them look over my job telling them that I did it myself. They came back with it all looks good. So reading the instructions provided by Blaine, here in the forum, and his instructions that came with the brakes lead to me doing it right in the end.

I just made the same mistake, it happens. I overhauled the entire rear brake system and completely overlooked the bleeder valve. This post has helped me greatly and I just wanted to drop a thank you all those who participated

No need to post pics of my huge error though
 
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I just made the same mistake, it happens. I overhauled the entire rear brake system and completely overlooked the bleeder valve. This post has helped me greatly and I just wanted to drop a thank you all those who participated

No need to post pics of my huge error though

What is a bit sad is it takes little effort and expense to put bleeders on both ends of the caliper. Lots of them are that way, just not many at the OEM level. Of course, we'd still need to use the one on top but at least we would solve half the problem.
 
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Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ engine mounts