What lessons learned did Jeep incorporate on each generation going forward from the TJ?

[lBasket]

That's for the 152 IH 4 banger , the 196 had 102.7 Net h.p. at 4000 r.p.m and 176.1 lb. ft. of net torque at 2000 r.p.m.

Wow!!!!

 

[ColoJeep]

Wow!!!!

The wild truth is a junkyard 5.3 LS engine would have much more power and torque and get much better fuel economy than this 4 banger. A plus would be they would weigh about the same 450 lbs .

 

[John Cooper]

The wild truth is a junkyard 5.3 LS engine would have much more power and torque and get much better fuel economy than this 4 banger. A plus would be they would weigh about the same 450 lbs .

But it's an LS...... they are so cliche now.......

 

[lBasket]

The wild truth is a junkyard 5.3 LS engine would have much more power and torque and get much better fuel economy than this 4 banger. A plus would be they would weigh about the same 450 lbs .

I sure would hope so, that engine is like 50 years old

 

[John Cooper]

I sure would hope so, that engine is like 50 years old

Easy now!!!!! I'm a 1963 vintage

 

[ColoJeep]

But it's an LS...... they are so cliche now.......

But so is a Ford 9" rear end , they are cliche's because they actually work ! .......

 

[ColoJeep]

Easy now!!!!! I'm a 1963 vintage

I won't say how old I am , ....... but . Maybe . A new "Measure of Automotive Supremacy" will give you a clue .....

 

[lBasket]

I won't say how old I am , ....... but . Maybe . A new "Measure of Automotive Supremacy" will give you a clue .....

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Jet era cars yessss

Now all we get is bag of broken glass era cars

 

[akajibio]

Build them to comply with crooked and corrupt governmental regulations, that's it.

The JKs and JLs are completely riddled with electronic problems. I know a number of people with JLs, and every single one of them gleefully turned them back in after the lease was up. In so many words they all shared with me the same sentiment; that they would never again buy a Mopar vehicle.

Unfortunately it isn't limited to just Jeep. All new cars are built this way, but I will say that new Jeeps seem to be especially problematic.

Chris, also the initial price of JK/JL is another huge factor to consider. We buy and build our TJ/LJ for a fraction of the cost and have more fun wheeling the crap out them.

 

[John Cooper]

I won't say how old I am , ....... but . Maybe . A new "Measure of Automotive Supremacy" will give you a clue .....

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Ain't that a 1940's something.......

 

[ColoJeep]

Ain't that a 1940's something.......

Sometimes it feels like it could be .....

 

[srimes]

The 196 c.i.d / 3.2 l , International Harvester I - 4 . The old school I-4 big block .

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I just got back to the hotel after visiting the LeMay Car Museum in Tacoma. This is the 1st pic I took inside: 1914 Stutz with a 390 CI 4-popper!

 

[ColoJeep]

I just got back to the hotel after visiting the LeMay Car Museum in Tacoma. This is the 1st pic I took inside: 1914 Stutz with a 390 CI 4-popper!

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I will see your Stutz bearcat 390 c.i.d. 4 banger and raise you the 1910 " Beast of Turin " Fiat S 76 1732 c.i.d. 4 Banger !

The car was faster than airplanes of the time ! It had a record of 116 m.p.h. and a one way speed of 132.27 m.p.h. !