This goes to show you... if you build it they will swap it.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/38368...sla-model-s-is-gonna-make-a-lot-of-people-mad
https://www.thedrive.com/news/38368...sla-model-s-is-gonna-make-a-lot-of-people-mad
V8 Tesla swap
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That must be the case, because a well optioned Model S will annihilate any V8 on the road, at least up until higher speeds.
Exactly. I'd think a Cat D6600 or similar extremely ancient diesel engine would do a better job at this, however - who cares how fast it goes as long as it belches smoke and makes lots of noise!
The guy doing it has rebuilt many salvaged teslas and offers repairs to people fed up with Tesla's anti repair stance.
"What should I name my car?" and "Can't believe I bought my first ___!" sounds a lot like what I'd expect to find on JK/JL forums 
At least with a V8, you can go on vacation or travel in the vehicle.
I even looked at doing the EV swap for a Jeep, but out of all the options, it made the least sense.
In a known commute, I think EV is fine, in fact my wife and are considering an EV, not a Tesla, because from what we've read, they have the most issues of any of the big EV makers.
Now the whole offroad EV thing is pretty much laughable at this point and I looked into the Cybertruck and looked on forums to read the fanboy articles, which consisted of bringing along a trailer with massive generator, to make Cybertruck make any sense at all and then oh yeah it's a tiny vehicle, that if the frame flexes might burn down the forest when the batteries might short, but it's also the weight of my 3/4 ton. Oh yeah and when you do tow, you don't have the range to tow anywhere.
There is something not right with this huge EV push. It really sounds like snake oil. These things are for people with lots of extra money and not sense. Maybe this is just from being an engineer, but we will need infrastructure beyond what was done to create the highways to make this stuff work.
Now with that I wouldn't mind a few EV off-road products. If I were to get a UTV, I'd probably get an EV model. I would probably setup the UTV in a building at the farm and add some solar to trickle charge the battery, but with these EVs we're not talking about 100s of Watts, we're really talking about much more, so I'd have to figure out if that's even possible. On top of that I would want the EV to be able to act like a true off-grid, battery backup storage from that UTV. Like it needs and inverter so I can run tools and stuff off of it. Also ultimately I need a way to at least charge it without having to use a PTO generator, but say a 3 kw trickle charge or something.
I even looked at doing the EV swap for a Jeep, but out of all the options, it made the least sense.
In a known commute, I think EV is fine, in fact my wife and are considering an EV, not a Tesla, because from what we've read, they have the most issues of any of the big EV makers.
Now the whole offroad EV thing is pretty much laughable at this point and I looked into the Cybertruck and looked on forums to read the fanboy articles, which consisted of bringing along a trailer with massive generator, to make Cybertruck make any sense at all and then oh yeah it's a tiny vehicle, that if the frame flexes might burn down the forest when the batteries might short, but it's also the weight of my 3/4 ton. Oh yeah and when you do tow, you don't have the range to tow anywhere.
There is something not right with this huge EV push. It really sounds like snake oil. These things are for people with lots of extra money and not sense. Maybe this is just from being an engineer, but we will need infrastructure beyond what was done to create the highways to make this stuff work.
Now with that I wouldn't mind a few EV off-road products. If I were to get a UTV, I'd probably get an EV model. I would probably setup the UTV in a building at the farm and add some solar to trickle charge the battery, but with these EVs we're not talking about 100s of Watts, we're really talking about much more, so I'd have to figure out if that's even possible. On top of that I would want the EV to be able to act like a true off-grid, battery backup storage from that UTV. Like it needs and inverter so I can run tools and stuff off of it. Also ultimately I need a way to at least charge it without having to use a PTO generator, but say a 3 kw trickle charge or something.
For what you have to lay out for a Tesla the EV thing just doesn't make sense. They're pricey. I've thought about how nice a little EV would be for the purpose of my 6 mile drive to work everyday, but apart from that the logistics just don't make sense. One of my coworkers has a Tesla, whenever he takes trips he uses the app to plan his route around available charging stations. It's doable, just seems like a pain in the ass.
You can also read about trips that are just a normal couple hours that turns into like a day to get back.
My wife, if she has to go back to the office will do about 90 miles a day 4 or 5 days a week. She packs on the miles, so for a normal, non-Tesla EV, just doing the math between another Prius vs a Nissan or GM EV and with being able to charge at work, excel file tends to favor the EV.
She wants the Prius though because she can't do trips with the EV, but we have the use for an additional truck, which can do our occasional trips, even if it only gets like 18 mpg, but that still makes sense in excel with just a handful of long trips a year.
Even the oil changes are cumbersome with the Prius and her mileage.
6 mile commute? How about a bicycle or an e-bike? I had a 4.25 mile commute for many years. I just rode a bike. I originally intended to install an e-hub on it, but never did as it turned out I didn't need it. YMMV and all that...
A small E-car would make sense for a lot of people. Tesla ain't it - but *is* what I'd expect from an American company: Overpriced, over optioned, too many gadgets, too much "technology", and actually too much range. An AFFORDABLE EV with a 60 mile real world range would be fantastic for a lot of people - without having a range that is just enough to get you stranded 300 miles from home. No computers, no touchscreens, no gadgets, just a good PWM controller, some cheap SLA batteries, and an e-meter. Guys have been converting old VW Rabbits to something like this for decades, why can't we get a new one?
I have a short commute and occasionally bike, but the traffic and my location isn't good for biking in the dark in the mornings or after work. I have been hit by a car before during the daytime when I used to train for triathlon stuff and was banging out the miles, so I'm not really into doing that again, though the empty country roads around here are so nice on a bike, so I haven't stopped, but I pick my time and locations and vehicles as I've gotten older. It's also scary to be biking and to watch a big truck with a trailer pass you into oncoming traffic on blind curves. Who's to say the truck won't just hit oncoming traffic rather than swing back over to take out the person on a bike.
In any case, I think for EV to become practical the highway system will need to look more like a train system than our current highways. If you could get on the highway and get into a lane where you pay your fee to drive in that lane and you pick your exit, get charged/maybe even help kick the group of EVs along, but once you're in the lane you don't have to touch controls until you are close to your exit and start going through the exit procedure. At that point you exit the highway, charged and onto your destination. But I see the EVs being like a train where each car is a train car and they help propel the line. And there's some type of charging and you pay your share.
A system like that to be practical, would cost an insane amount of money and would have crazy bugs to workout. But I do like the simplicity of some of these EVs. If they would use the right motors, in a day you could easily refresh the motor for incredibly cheap. However, I'm not sure the motors that are good at highway speeds AND low speeds are as simple. Batteries would just cost a bunch, but if you were to spend $3k every 200k miles, I'd take that deal.
Also to your point about too much tech, another buddy that's an engineer as well, were discussing, why do these vehicles have anything more than the speaker system? Why not just plug your tablet to a nice tablet holder? In fact I'd like to have a handful of removable speakers too that set in certain locations that are inductively charged. I only use Bluetooth speakers in the jeep and speakers that I can remove and place around my camp.
As far as batteries, I don't mind spending money on good batteries. Many good options really last a long time, but I've had too many "cheap" batteries that end up costing way more than I anticipated. Also expensive charge controllers are often necessary too, but I've only found good results with at least good controllers AND good batteries.
By "cheap", I mean "affordable". SLAs are "affordable", and infinitely recyclable. Yea, you'd have to replace them every 4 years or so, but they're "affordable". And why on earth would I want a tablet in my car? That's Tesla's nonsense. A good PWM controller, an "e-meter" for battery status, and yes - a good charge controller are all that's needed. Charge controllers for SLA batteries are cheap - even good ones, the technology is mature and well understood.
I hear you about hairy commutes on a bike. My bike commute was on a narrow, high speed rural road for most of it, then a short distance on SR 1 - also a narrow, high speed road thanx to the idiotic California coastal commission who stated "we envision this as a rural, 2 lane highway". It should have been 4 laned DECADES ago. To make the experience complete, there were multiple junkyards on the route, which means the it was infested with sharp, tire puncturing crap! I had a pair of HUGE orange safety flags on the back of the bike. One of my co-workers once told me that he didn't understand why I did that until the morning he came up behind me in the (frequent) fog! Well - DUH!
I would LOVE to ride my MTB to work every day (except for the winter), however doing so would require me to negotiate a major freeway interchange & most of it would require me to be on a narrow shoulder. I'm not trying to get wiped out by someone checking their instagram likes.
Can't say I blame you there - smartphone idiots are everywhere!
It feels like I do it too often.I honestly can't recall the last time I drove 1000 miles or even half that
But, it’s also 232 miles or 5 hours to the closest Arby’s.
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