Tire noise level: A/T vs R/T vs M/T
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I have been looking and comparing the Falken Rt and Mickey Thompson Baja Boss At. Both are close in size with Falken a tad taller, weight is close. Falken I believe are a C rated and Mickey's are a D rated tire. And price is $$$ for each. Looking at 35x12x17 Also I am tired of the Coopers noise, have been a good tire.
I have BFG KO2's on my TJ, and they are very quiet, but then again the wind noise in the TJ pretty much drowns out everything else, especially on the highway. I have Firestone Destination A/T's on my 2019 Grand Cherokee, and have been very happy with them, I think they are a perfect match for that Jeep. They aren't very aggressive looking, but definitely a "sleeper" tire and do great off road and in the snow. A friend has KO2s on his WK2, and they hum quite a bit at speeds above 50 mph. I think tire noise is more noticeable in the quieter Grand Cherokee since the interior isolates you from other sounds and wind noise.
Personally I think M/Ts on a mostly street driven vehicle are a complete waste, since they suck in pretty much everything besides mud. It's like driving on snow tires in July. One of my XJs had mud tires on it briefly and between the vibration and basically turning into ice skates in the rain and snow I couldn't get them off that Jeep fast enough.
Personally I think M/Ts on a mostly street driven vehicle are a complete waste, since they suck in pretty much everything besides mud. It's like driving on snow tires in July. One of my XJs had mud tires on it briefly and between the vibration and basically turning into ice skates in the rain and snow I couldn't get them off that Jeep fast enough.
Im currently on KM3 MT's and the Cooper STT and the road noise is about equal but the wind noise is more prominent, the last set was the BFG AT and I would say they were a bit less road noise but I haven't had a set of tires that were just too noisy for me in a long time
honestly these Coopers (or at least the one in front left) is to the point where I'm not sure a tire can make more noise within the laws of physics. I can make out individually audible slaps of tread blocks hitting the pavement. It's everything I would expect from a bogger or that monstrosity that Boog posted above.
They were quiet when new...not sure they made much more noise than the KO2s they replaced, even. They were audible but were never the dominant noise source until 20k miles. I don't think the tread is worn down even halfway yet but as far as I'm concerned they're done. I don't think it's an abnormal wear issue as I've always rotated them on schedule and I don't have any alignment issues. The only thing, which I mentioned earlier, I ended up narrowing down that one of them is unbalanceable or bent/out of round, so this one got put back into rotation right as it had been put into spare duty; so it's got about 5k more miles than the other 4...meaning the others are probably around 15k. I could buy a few more k's by swapping it back to the spare if I'm willing to deal with the constant wobble, but 20k is not an acceptable tread life for me considering I get double or better out of KO2s and they cost less.
What do you figure , 11/2 - 2 oz. to balance out ?
I don't know what's on mine right now but a couple of them were over 7oz when I first got them, and I had to take them back because they were jiggling my calf meat going down the 60mph state highway. Multiple rows, multiple layers almost a third of the circumference of the wheel.
People seem to like them but that hasn't been my experience.
Bet these are quieter than boggers as the tread blocks have a lot more angle to them. A side by side comparison review would be neat.
If stock boggers are too quiet you can fix that by cutting them
I'm running a set of 3 year old KM3'S and they are still pretty dang quiet.
that's what I originally went to get but it was peak COVID supply chain disruption in 2021 and they were on an 8 week backorder. I didn't want to go 8 weeks with 5.5" of total lift, 4.88s and 32s
Maybe not Coopers fault? The jeep was due for a tire rotation today and while taking care of that I noticed how crazy uneven the tread blocks have worn!
Both front tires look like this, rears are just fine. While I had it out I checked the alignment and the fronts were tied OUT by 1/8". They were IN by 3/16" when I last aligned it 3 years ago. I added 1" of lift in the rear and made a slight caster adjustment last year, probably should have checked the toe but didn't think I'd made a big enough change to affect it. That's the only thing I can think of that would have knocked the toe out.
Most Google results I come up with associate cupping with vibrations from bad balance or worn suspension components which I know isn't the case. They mostly associate toe with uneven wear side to side, like at the shoulder, but ChatGPT pretty confidently said toe out could do it. I also found a site that said a locked 4wd drivetrain could do it, but I've had my lunchbox locker in for 3 years and this is a very recent development.
Both front tires look like this, rears are just fine. While I had it out I checked the alignment and the fronts were tied OUT by 1/8". They were IN by 3/16" when I last aligned it 3 years ago. I added 1" of lift in the rear and made a slight caster adjustment last year, probably should have checked the toe but didn't think I'd made a big enough change to affect it. That's the only thing I can think of that would have knocked the toe out.
Most Google results I come up with associate cupping with vibrations from bad balance or worn suspension components which I know isn't the case. They mostly associate toe with uneven wear side to side, like at the shoulder, but ChatGPT pretty confidently said toe out could do it. I also found a site that said a locked 4wd drivetrain could do it, but I've had my lunchbox locker in for 3 years and this is a very recent development.
they're noticeably quieter after rotating...probably because the cupped tires swapped sides on their way to the rear so they're now rolling in the opposite direction. Hopefully the cupping wears off and the other two don't end up doing the same thing.
Still probably looking for an AT in another year. We'll see.
Still probably looking for an AT in another year. We'll see.
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