SYE without adjustable control arms

[LukesfirstJeep]

That's a numbers thing. I neither know or care. I let the rig tell me what it needs and go from there. This is getting back into the "what length do I set my arms?" bullshit and I don't go there.

I understand. I'm was trying to use a 2+2=4 rational, but it seems "let the rig tell me what it needs" is what's important, and not the math. Each vehicle set up is different, so there's no mathematical formula

 

[Kevlarr]

All I know is I never needed an SYE until I went with a spring over 3”. I had 3” suspension and a 1 1/4 body lift and was just fine without upper or lower track arms.
my experience

kR

 

[jazngab]

Side question...was pre pb blasting the CA nuts and bolts and question about the removal of 4 points in particular:
What’s the trick to removing:
1. Both bolts on the axle side of the front uppers. They are like some kind of bolt that has a collar that just spins when trying to break it free.
2. the passenger side axle side rear lower CA. If I try to remove the bolt, the backing plate will be in the way to remove it fully.
3.the passenger side frame side rear upper CA. Looks like the exhaust is in the way to removing the bolt.

I attached pics of 2 and 3. I figured I’d ask here to see what’s the easiest way (if there is one) to removing these bolts. @mrblaine @jjvw @89grand @JMT @Goatman

 

[rasband]

Side question...was pre pb blasting the CA nuts and bolts and question about the removal of 4 points in particular:
What’s the trick to removing:
1. Both bolts on the axle side of the front uppers. They are like some kind of bolt that has a collar that just spins when trying to break it free.
2. the passenger side axle side rear lower CA. If I try to remove the bolt, the backing plate will be in the way to remove it fully.
3.the passenger side frame side rear upper CA. Looks like the exhaust is in the way to removing the bolt.

I attached pics of 2 and 3. I figured I’d ask here to see what’s the easiest way (if there is one) to removing these bolts. @mrblaine @jjvw @89grand @JMT @Goatman

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If you plan to refresh your bolts, you could loosen them enough to grind off the heads to yank them. When you install new ones you can flip the bolts to make everything easier to work with next time.

I don’t know the right answer if you keep them. On the exhaust I ratcheted it over a little, but that was painful and probably did something unintended.