Simplest Dana 44 rear disc conversion?
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I’ve driven TJ’s with discs, but didn’t use the parking brake! (They were automatic LJ’s)
No, because I'd much prefer to swap over a set of disc pads than a set of drum linings everytime. Wouldn't you?
That sound you heard? That big whooooosh, was the point going right over your head.
Mute is to quieten. Moot means having little or no practical relevance. They are not generally interchangeable.
MallCrawlOnTons
TJ Enthusiast
Your needy. I can’t give you an answer that will make you happy.
Jeep says they are better and so does rick pewe. They both have much better understanding of these things compared to me. I’m just trying to relaying info from good sources and you want details from me. I gave you my experiences with drums and where I live. That’s all I can do.
Ah, so it comes out. You just don't know. You just repeat what others say. Good. Glad we finally came to that point. You have no reasonable explanation for the garbage you spout.
EDIT: Oh also, it's you're, not your.
I was unaware that some general understanding of vocabulary was a symptom of being retarded.
With what I deal with every day it seems like disc brakes wear out quicker than the average set of drum brakes. It won't just be a simple pad slap either, everything rusts where I am. So that means new/cut rotors due to the fact there will most likely be a decent sized rust lip on the edge of the rotor that could lead to issues. Not to mention all the seized slide pins that have seem to become more and more common. Drums seem to hold up against rust better than rotors up here, and changing out the shoes/hardware on a TJ is extremely easy compared to some of the newer imports that still use drum brakes. I think most people just get themselves too worked up and worried about doing the rear shoes. In my opinion i think drum brakes will work ok for what most people here use their rig for, until they get in to some serious off roading. Think that pretty much sums up some pros and cons.
I know you're a pretty respected brake and all around guru around here, so just curious if I'm missing something.
By the way, I do have some questions about the black magic brakes I'd like to talk to you about. I don't know if you have time to PM here or if I should go through the contact form on the site. Thanks.
EDIT: I HAVE NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FOR MY CONCLUSIONS. THEY ARE DRAWN FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
Where's the squinty eyed guy when you need him?
I only have one point to make with regard to all that. If a rust edge on a rotor is a problem, what in the hell does a rust lip and wear lip on a drum do when the adjuster hardware is rusted to shit? At least on a disc set up, you can pry the piston in and get the caliper off. If you can't back the shoes off, nothing about that won't suck.
Ask away
That whole interchange gave me a good laugh...one I really needed tonight! I’m off to bed to dream about some new disc brakes, well someday!
MallCrawlOnTons
TJ Enthusiast
Jeep and Rick pewe are garbage. Got it. Thanks for the update
It's not that Blaine, it's noticing why others are offended when all you see is that you are trying to help them understand how you see things.
I've said mean things to Blaine, just say you're sorry so He doesn't go away. That would hurt us all.
I tend to be able to focus when needed. I like problems to solve. I like to help when possible. I have a very dry sense of humor. I am utterly sarcastic when I'm not trying to help. And, it isn't that I don't see them getting offended, it is that I ignore it, well that is until I don't, and then bad things usually happen that are not conducive to keeping the place civil.
I enjoy your posts Blaine, just other people also have opinions. It's a good forum and keeping it civil is a good thing sometimes you need to agree to disagree and just walk away.
I've been there plenty of times, and it does suck. Yes disc brakes are easier to work on, but the drum brakes on a TJ are a long way from rocket science. The point I was trying to make was that ease of replacement shouldn't be a deciding factor in doing a disc conversion. I believe they work better for the serious offroader but for the occasional soft trail and daily driving I think drums will work fine. I'm not trying to sway anybody away from a disc conversion and hurt anybody's business, and I'm sure you get that. From what I've seen you don't seem like the guy to try and sell a big brake kit to somebody that DD's their jeep on 30" tires.
Anyways, I'm looking to do front brakes on my 97. They work fine and they were just done about 5,000 miles ago but the cheap pads squeak so bad. How are the black magic brakes when it comes to noise? Also, what do you sell for the rear shoes? Are they a black magic formula?
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