Metalcloak T-Link Steering
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What is the time stamp on the video where he claims "no bump steer"? I hear about correcting the toe-change but nothing about claiming to eliminate bump steer; that would have to be addressed with the track bar and drag link angles.
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I do work at MetalCloak but I am also just a guy. My post was not prompted or requested by my workplace; it is just an honest question. I couldn't use my old login as my email account that was linked no longer exists since it was a RubiconExpress email, lol.
Then please ask them to quit being so over the top with their advertising. They don't have to put other companies products down, just advertise what they have and let folks make a choice.
And yes i do run metalcloak double adjustable control arms, they will get their first real world test this weekend at Coalmont OHV. Yes I will report back on how they preform.
How about asking Metalcloak to stop lying to their customers about how things work.
3:01. Actual wording is "no negative input to steering" as he is swinging the drag link in an arc. Sure there is no negative input to the steering with one end of the drag link in your hand.
There is a lot there that I don't agree with, but hey marketing.
So there is no where in the video that mentions bump-steer; that is what I wanted to clarify.
The statement that is shown proven with example, is that there is no change to the tow as the suspension cycles. I am not sure how this is not a good thing. High speed tow change is pretty sketchy.
How much suspension travel and at what speeds does this toe change become sketchy?
lol, sorry "sketchy" is not the correct word I should have used; I was only 1 cup off coffee in me when I wrote that and should have said "unsettling or less confident".
What I should have said is that tow change is just another factor that can exaggerate unwanted steering input and cause a "less confident/unsettling" feeling; you add in track bar length and angle along with lift height and this can all lead to an unsettling feeling especially with taller lifts hitting bigger bumps... throw higher speeds, uneven corner weights, HCG, etc, I think you get what I am saying; less negatives affecting steering is better.
I can feel a positive difference immediately with the MetalCloak steering in the three different lift heights I have had the opportunity to drive after adding it. I have driven the set up with a 2", 4.5" and a 5.5.
I have years of experience driving the Y-link steering systems listed in the video; the bone stock, the Grand Cherokee and the Currie and now a few months on the MetalCloak T-link (Rubicon and LOTS of daily driving). Real world longevity has not been proven on this however MetalCloak has a good reputation with their products so I am not too worried. I can say with my experience, there is not a dead spot and no flop; def an improvement over the other steering systems I have used in the past.
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MetalCloak shows proof of "no flop" on daily driver Jeep.
Custom made parts that did not exist like this before from MC , not the same "off the shelf stuff" people been trying to use for years unsuccessfully.
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Westymike
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Is that a fresh out of the box steering?
Did Metalcloak use a shim to pack the TRE and reduce the flop, similar to the Cure by RuffStuff?
Or did MC use slotted holes the way Currie/RockJock and OEM Jeep does?
I have run Currie steering at several lift heights with between 10-12" of shock travel and have never experienced any less confident/unsettling feelings or any unwanted steering input. I have long recognized the phenomena of the toe change as the suspension cycles. It exists. Yet this phenomena has never manifested itself into anything that affects my driving. It is an absolute non-issue.
FWiW, Metalcloak's long reputation is one of misrepresentation, exaggeration, design inconsistency, and dishonesty.
Do you mean “tow”?
IDK, but if I’m building and representing axels or diffrentials or breaks I better know how to spell that shit correctly.
And I clarified that by posting the actual wording from the video. Just because he doesn't say it, doesn't mean it isn't there.
His exact statement is "no negative input to steering", no mention of toe at 3:01. That is deceptive.
In the examples, the exaggerated travel way beyond the realistic actual window of travel, to try to show the negatives of your competition is deceptive.
All your words here, and that video, are just reinforcing our negative view of your marketing.
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